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ArchangelMadzz said:
TomaTito said:

The Ninendo Switch Dock comes with an AC adapter that costs 30 plus an hdmi cable.
And like I mentioned in my controller thread, USB-C HDMI powered docks aren't cheap either.

 

I like how you purposefully choose by far the most expensive option. 

I can find a really expensive anything to justify a companies price point of something. The average price for a USB C hub is about $20 that'll do everything you need. And Nintendo's AC adapter being 30 is a joke. I've found many adapters that are cheaper and do far far more things.

It can't cost Nintendo more than $20 to manufacture these docks.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-5V-2A-AC-Micro-USB-Wall-Charger-For-Android-Phone-Tablet-PC-US-EU-UK-AU-Plug-/311606035869?var=&hash=item488d2ac59d:m:m6cAnnakAYWmGf2q50awDkg

That's to buy one and have it shipped to your house for 3.50 the 1amp version of the same thing is around 2 euro, again, to buy. I know you know this fact but still it's just insanity to try to put a 30euro price tag on something because it has a Nintendo logo on it is the same as people being okay with the lower power of hardware in Apple products because of the logo they hold, although in this instance the price is 10 times higher than the normal for the N branded adapter here.



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I hope there will be cheaper third party docks... Otherwise I might look into making one myself assuming they haven't included tech to make that tricky.

That would be the priciest part of the dock... The tech that stops other people making docks.



I wonder if they are deliberately high to get people buy a second Switch.

Additional Dock-$90

Set of Joy Cons-$80

Joy Con Grip-$15

Total-$185

For only $115 more you can get a whole second system.



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Just curious but does anyone know if you have to sync the Switch to a specific dock at all?

I was trying to find a reason why anyone would want/need an extra dock and the only reason I found was to have a dock plugged into the main TV and then one in the bedroom so you could unplug from the main TV go upstairs and slot it into the other dock and just carry on playing. Of course that only works if there is no dock sync required.



WoodenPints said:
Just curious but does anyone know if you have to sync the Switch to a specific dock at all?

I was trying to find a reason why anyone would want/need an extra dock and the only reason I found was to have a dock plugged into the main TV and then one in the bedroom so you could unplug from the main TV go upstairs and slot it into the other dock and just carry on playing. Of course that only works if there is no dock sync required.

I doubt there is any dock sync required, or I mean extra work.

The joycons automatically sync to whatever gamepad you plug then into. No need to remove push button on gamepad or the controllers. Just dock them and they sync.

If they dock requires any syncing, which i see no reason it should, it just just outputting video basially, it should work the same as teh controllers. The second you dock it syncs. but again, I see no reason why a sync woudl be required to output video.



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TomaTito said:
irstupid said:
Saw an article today in my "recommended" on Google that the PS4 stand is discounted today on Amazon.
It is only $16 instead of $26.

Yea, okay, so lets see the Sony fans come out in droves and defend Sony selling a piece of plastic that holds the system vertical for basically $30

The Ninendo Switch Dock comes with an AC adapter that costs 30 plus an hdmi cable.
And like I mentioned in my controller thread, USB-C HDMI powered docks aren't cheap either.

 

Nintendo Switch Dock Set

$89.99MSRP*

Includes a Nintendo Switch Dock, Nintendo Switch AC adapter, and an HDMI cable. (Note that one of each of these items are included with each Nintendo Switch system.)

If you’d like to use your Nintendo Switch with multiple TVs in the house, this set provides everything you need to dock your system and play in TV mode.

So, the fact that Nintendo also overcharges for its AC adapter means that it isn't overcharging for the dock. The AC adapter and HDMI cable cost Nintendo a maximum of $2 combined. As for the USB-C to HDMI, these adapters cost as little as $13, probably less.

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-USB-C-Adapter-Macbook-Chromebook/dp/B0123PJ9BK/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1487005938&sr=1-2-catcorr&keywords=USB-c+to+HDMI

And I can't imagine that adding support for the HDMI port, and charging capabilities adds significant expense. I wouldn't be suprised at all if the total cost to manufacture the dock for Nintendo was less than $15.



ArchangelMadzz said:

I like how you purposefully choose by far the most expensive option. 

I can find a really expensive anything to justify a companies price point of something. The average price for a USB C hub is about $20 that'll do everything you need. And Nintendo's AC adapter being 30 is a joke. I've found many adapters that are cheaper and do far far more things.

It can't cost Nintendo more than $20 to manufacture these docks.

First thing I mention in the post is that "every company rips you off with the accessories, and not just in gaming." They all have markups. The USB-C hubs I linked shows the relevant accessory prices for Macbooks and Chromebooks when I did the search on amazon. I even put a cheap one: https://www.amazon.com/Larnn-Multiport-Converter-ChromeBook-Charging/dp/B01M7NUY71/

Ganoncrotch said:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-5V-2A-AC-Micro-USB-Wall-Charger-For-Android-Phone-Tablet-PC-US-EU-UK-AU-Plug-/311606035869?var=&hash=item488d2ac59d:m:m6cAnnakAYWmGf2q50awDkg

That's to buy one and have it shipped to your house for 3.50 the 1amp version of the same thing is around 2 euro, again, to buy. I know you know this fact but still it's just insanity to try to put a 30euro price tag on something because it has a Nintendo logo on it is the same as people being okay with the lower power of hardware in Apple products because of the logo they hold, although in this instance the price is 10 times higher than the normal for the N branded adapter here.

Yeah, I agree, but it's apparently just as expensive to make as a plastic stand.

potato_hamster said:

So, the fact that Nintendo also overcharges for its AC adapter means that it isn't overcharging for the dock. The AC adapter and HDMI cable cost Nintendo a maximum of $2 combined. As for the USB-C to HDMI, these adapters cost as little as $13, probably less.

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-USB-C-Adapter-Macbook-Chromebook/dp/B0123PJ9BK/

And I can't imagine that adding support for the HDMI port, and charging capabilities adds significant expense. I wouldn't be suprised at all if the total cost to manufacture the dock for Nintendo was less than $15.

That's no dock but a usb-c hdmi adapter, no power is transmited.



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FunFan said:
Fei-Hung said:

 

And buy a grip charger thing. So all in would set to back $390 on launch if you include a game and charger. 

 

This is sounding more expensive as time passes. 

I agree. Which is why I updated the OP with this data, as it is quite the hidden charge and both competitors have the connection built in all SKUs.

My main worry is having to buy additional joy con's specifically for digimon, pokemon like some drawings which popped up earlier. I can imagine another joy con for fighting games with a proper dpad etc. 



zorg1000 said:
I wonder if they are deliberately high to get people buy a second Switch.

Additional Dock-$90

Set of Joy Cons-$80

Joy Con Grip-$15

Total-$185

For only $115 more you can get a whole second system.

When you look at it like this and subtract the price of the accessories coming in the box with the console... that doesn't leave a whole lot of the budget for product to go into the actual hardware of the device, just thinking of the argument about the X1 coming packaged with the Kinect 2.0 by default which was in effect taking away some of your cash at the counter which could have gone towards making a more powerful console from the get go.

Not that I think the manufacturing costs of things like "hd rumble" or a hdmi cable costs anywhere near what is being asked for the switch branded versions of same mind you. Still with all things taken into account if you were to see a Switch and New3DSXL on the shelf next to each other (one without a power adapter even so all the cash goes on the console) then it wouldn't be too strange to think how much more powerful the Switch would have been if features like HD rumble were not a costly addition which may not be used as much as say... more processing power in the unit.



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irstupid said:
WoodenPints said:
Just curious but does anyone know if you have to sync the Switch to a specific dock at all?

I was trying to find a reason why anyone would want/need an extra dock and the only reason I found was to have a dock plugged into the main TV and then one in the bedroom so you could unplug from the main TV go upstairs and slot it into the other dock and just carry on playing. Of course that only works if there is no dock sync required.

I doubt there is any dock sync required, or I mean extra work.

The joycons automatically sync to whatever gamepad you plug then into. No need to remove push button on gamepad or the controllers. Just dock them and they sync.

If they dock requires any syncing, which i see no reason it should, it just just outputting video basially, it should work the same as teh controllers. The second you dock it syncs. but again, I see no reason why a sync woudl be required to output video.

Yea that is pretty much how I expect it to work was just wondering if it had ever been confirmed anywhere :)