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Mummelmann said:
Well, the first year of the Switch proved to be a lot better than both I and many others expected. The reveal really didn't sell me on the idea at all. I personally find the joy-con's and the handheld mode to be atrocious, but many seem to disagree. Then again; I never liked handhelds and didn't buy it for anything other playing in the dock on the TV

I really like it being a handheld exactly then when i want it to be a handheld and a hoe console when i want it to be a home console.

The Joycons are part of that an allow motion control at the same time, if yout want to use it. I usually don't but i'm still fine with the concept.

I'm really curious what will happen with growing library and the price cut we should see sooner or later.



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captain carot said:
Mummelmann said:
Well, the first year of the Switch proved to be a lot better than both I and many others expected. The reveal really didn't sell me on the idea at all. I personally find the joy-con's and the handheld mode to be atrocious, but many seem to disagree. Then again; I never liked handhelds and didn't buy it for anything other playing in the dock on the TV

I really like it being a handheld exactly then when i want it to be a handheld and a hoe console when i want it to be a home console.

The Joycons are part of that an allow motion control at the same time, if yout want to use it. I usually don't but i'm still fine with the concept.

I'm really curious what will happen with growing library and the price cut we should see sooner or later.

People just keep founding new modes!

Switch is really versatile

Last edited by 160rmf - on 16 January 2018

 

 

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captain carot said:
Mummelmann said:
Well, the first year of the Switch proved to be a lot better than both I and many others expected. The reveal really didn't sell me on the idea at all. I personally find the joy-con's and the handheld mode to be atrocious, but many seem to disagree. Then again; I never liked handhelds and didn't buy it for anything other playing in the dock on the TV

I really like it being a handheld exactly then when i want it to be a handheld and a hoe console when i want it to be a home console.

The Joycons are part of that an allow motion control at the same time, if yout want to use it. I usually don't but i'm still fine with the concept.

I'm really curious what will happen with growing library and the price cut we should see sooner or later.

I can see how some would like the convenience factor. I brought mine with me on vacation, tried it both on the plane and in the apartment where we stayed. I just found it to be really, really uncomfortable with the joy-con's attached to the sides, it's like holding a rather bulky and unwieldy tablet controller, the sticks are too shallow and the trigger buttons offer poor feedback, the other buttons are simply too small and too cramped on the controller, so detaching them and even sliding them into the controller shell is properly unsatisfying. I bought the Pro controller, which is easily among the best controllers I've ever owned, it's damn near perfect in my opinion, too bad it has an insane price tag (115$ here...). I guess I'll never fully appreciate Nintendo's quirky pack-in controllers, I really disliked the Gamepad and Wiimote as well.

I don't see them cutting the price any time soon, maybe in 2019, it really depends on what they do with the 3DS, what software they're planning on releasing and how the baseline holds up. Besides the obvious lack of supply in Japan that needs to be met, I don't really see much reason why the baseline should be abnormally high after the holidays though, ports and remakes are a much more tough sell and it would take quite something to garner as much interest as Zelda, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey in around 6 months did.



160rmf said:
Thankfully Nintendo did an appealing product with a very clear message that reached a wider audience outside the forum dwellers.

*HISS*

*Goes back to chewing the bones remaining of a deceased forum dweller*



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RolStoppable said:
What Switch taught us is that the gaming community is out of touch.

Or, at the least, people often overestimate extrapolating their own wishes for the whole market.

I like the Switch and knew I wanted one. I am impressed how many Nintendo has sold because the price is a premium for many people.  Being able to whip my Switch out of my purse and play a new quality Mario title is a dream.



VGPolyglot said:
I also hated the reveal myself, it certainly disappointed me.

When it was shown what would be required to play online, as well as the paltry offering of one old rom per month as part of the subscription service, my expectations where shaken to be sure. Wish I could find exactly what I said, but I know I was negative about it when the first info dropped.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

lmao man threads like these highlight why I don't take 90% of forum dwellers serious about a products success. Noone is more out of touch with gaming than forum dwellers



SpokenTruth said:
Technarchy said:
Sometimes it pays not to listen to the customer.

In this case Nintendo's vision was spot on.

Nintendo functions on the Henry Ford principle of products.

He said, “If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.

Nintendo said a long time ago that they make the games you didn't know you wanted yet.

lol, nice!



Mummelmann said:

I don't see them cutting the price any time soon, maybe in 2019, it really depends on what they do with the 3DS, what software they're planning on releasing and how the baseline holds up. Besides the obvious lack of supply in Japan that needs to be met, I don't really see much reason why the baseline should be abnormally high after the holidays though, ports and remakes are a much more tough sell and it would take quite something to garner as much interest as Zelda, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey in around 6 months did.

Side note, i prefer the Pro Controller for 'traditional' console gaming, like i usually did with the Wii U. Ergonomically simply way better. But even with my relatively big hands i have no issues using Switch in handheld mode. The joycons are also used as a second controller.

 

As for the ports, it seems that Skyrim and Doom sold decently for ports of that age. And games like Bayonetta 2 or Tropical Freeze will actually be new to many Switch owners. Together with actually new games i don't see a lack of content. And we have to keep in mind how long Nintendos core IP's usually sell. SMO, BOTW and MK8Deluxe might sell well for years. With more and more japanese devs supporting Switch, already a ton of indie games and all that it acutlly looks pretty good, even more so if you look at more average gamers. There's no lack of content.

Switch and pricing might get interesting as well. Right now Switch is at 329,-€ in Europe, without any game. At the same time 3DS XL is at 199, 2DS XL 129-149,-€ and a 2DS from as low as 80,-€. Basically only 3DS XL is still expensive. And Nintendo wants to sell 20 million within the next fiscal year.

With the 3DS family very soon getting no major releases anymore i see a real chance for a Switch price cut to somewhere in the 249-269,-€ region and 3DS XL getting phased out this year while 2DS and 2DS XL might be sold for quite some time as budget devices.