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Hapuc12 said:
celador said:

I still wouldn't have much confidence in the future of MM

As for buying QD, it would be up to the studio I guess. I would rather see Sony invest in  a big new studio though.

Even more worrying this is happening when Sony is winning. What could happen next gen if Playstation us underperforming? 

Well i guess it all comes down to how dreams will perform.

Don't know i would like it too tbh if they invested in a new studio.

Yeah Sucker Punch could be closed and Guerrila could sink too it all depends onthem how HZD performs.

MM didn't invest in a new studio rather they rented space at a techno park so 5 or 6 staff who live in the area didn't have to travel.

What I see as the problem with Sony's UK studios is most don't have their own IP's to help sustain them and allow them to time to nuture future new IP's,

Take Guerrilla it had Killzone and that allowed it to time and space to develop Horizon, while Guerilla Cambridge had to rely on what ever projects it was fed

and this means that they are hamstrung and apart from being first party, are really not much different to studios who do contract work or remasters who go from job to job and even when a contract is a success , the only benefit they get is reputational  and that hopefully allows them to get more work , it also stops your  team from honing their non technical skills and attracting people  who want to utilise their creativity.



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mjk45 said:
Hapuc12 said:

Well i guess it all comes down to how dreams will perform.

Don't know i would like it too tbh if they invested in a new studio.

Yeah Sucker Punch could be closed and Guerrila could sink too it all depends onthem how HZD performs.

MM didn't invest in a new studio rather they rented space at a techno park so 5 or 6 staff who live in the area didn't have to travel.

What I see as the problem with Sony's UK studios is most don't have their own IP's to help sustain them and allow them to time to nuture future new IP's,

Take Guerrilla it had Killzone and that allowed it to time and space to develop Horizon, while Guerilla Cambridge had to rely on what ever projects it was fed

and this means that they are hamstrung and apart from being first party, are really not much different to studios who do contract work or remasters who go from job to job and even when a contract is a success , the only benefit they get is reputational  and that hopefully allows them to get more work , it also stops your  team from honing their non technical skills and attracting people  who want to utilise their creativity.

It really sucks for the Guys who were working there.

But Cambridge could have taken on the Killzone Series i mean they made one of the best games of the entire franchise and arguably one of the best games on Vita.

And yup when they send there CV first thing is sure "SIE (Guerrila Cambridge)" i just hope they will find a job soon.



CosmicSex said:
UnderstatedCornHole said:

Sony only make mistakes or gets lucky.

How many hardware devices has it released that succeeded Vs failures?

Getting rid of this studio with PSVR around just says it all.

They have a brand new VR studio thoug.  North West.  They are obviously (per their statement) folding those resources into that studio.  

It seems like Sony isn't willing to invest the money for AAA games to be released on the PSVR.

That seals it's doom before it's even out the gate, no questions needed.



UnderstatedCornHole said:
CosmicSex said:

They have a brand new VR studio thoug.  North West.  They are obviously (per their statement) folding those resources into that studio.  

It seems like Sony isn't willing to invest the money for AAA games to be released on the PSVR.

That seals it's doom before it's even out the gate, no questions needed.

I get the impression Sony doesn't even want to make single A games for PSVR. I see PSVR like Kinect, if the software sales potential is only one or a few hundred thousand, its probably not worthwhile.

3rd party support might be decent simply because they will rely on PC as well. But thus far, PSVR is DOA.



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UnderstatedCornHole said:
betacon said:

5 Vs 1

Count again, start from Betamax

Nearly all of Sony's success stories have been because of inept competition and not their skilled play of hand.

The PS1, PS2, PSP and PS4 where not only a success because the competition screwed up. Especially since the 3DS was the most successful handheld yet. Sony knows how to market itself took over one of the biggest markets (Europe) by actually caring about that continent and made a platform for third party games and themselves. The PS3 and PS Vita where a disaster. 



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Qwark said:
UnderstatedCornHole said:

Count again, start from Betamax

Nearly all of Sony's success stories have been because of inept competition and not their skilled play of hand.

The PS1, PS2, PSP and PS4 where not only a success because the competition screwed up. Especially since the 3DS was the most successful handheld yet. Sony knows how to market itself took over one of the biggest markets (Europe) by actually caring about that continent and made a platform for third party games and themselves. The PS3 and PS Vita where a disaster. 

Exactly. That's just like last gen. Sony messing up was a big help for MS, but they still had to play it smart to take advantage of it. That guy is just clearly blinded by bias and/or hate.

Oh, and I wouldn't really consider the PS3 a disaster. Sure, it had a horrible start, but Sony played it smart and was able to turn it around. Not only did they eventually pass the 360, but they also only sold ~14M-15M less than the Wii and PS1. I guess that could have just been luck.



thismeintiel said:
Qwark said:

The PS1, PS2, PSP and PS4 where not only a success because the competition screwed up. Especially since the 3DS was the most successful handheld yet. Sony knows how to market itself took over one of the biggest markets (Europe) by actually caring about that continent and made a platform for third party games and themselves. The PS3 and PS Vita where a disaster. 

Exactly. That's just like last gen. Sony messing up was a big help for MS, but they still had to play it smart to take advantage of it. That guy is just clearly blinded by bias and/or hate.

Oh, and I wouldn't really consider the PS3 a disaster. Sure, it had a horrible start, but Sony played it smart and was able to turn it around. Not only did they eventually pass the 360, but they also only sold ~14M-15M less than the Wii and PS1. I guess that could have just been luck.

It sold quite well but it's first years did cost Playstation more money than it ever earned back. Even the PS4 hasn't earned all that money back yet with its profit.



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thismeintiel said:
Qwark said:

The PS1, PS2, PSP and PS4 where not only a success because the competition screwed up. Especially since the 3DS was the most successful handheld yet. Sony knows how to market itself took over one of the biggest markets (Europe) by actually caring about that continent and made a platform for third party games and themselves. The PS3 and PS Vita where a disaster. 

Exactly. That's just like last gen. Sony messing up was a big help for MS, but they still had to play it smart to take advantage of it. That guy is just clearly blinded by bias and/or hate.

Oh, and I wouldn't really consider the PS3 a disaster. Sure, it had a horrible start, but Sony played it smart and was able to turn it around. Not only did they eventually pass the 360, but they also only sold ~14M-15M less than the Wii and PS1. I guess that could have just been luck.

"blinded by bias and hate"

The bias is with you if you can't differentiate statements of fact with your own personal ego about the performance as a whole of Sony products over time and their obsessions for forcing their own standards on the market, and thus perpetual failure.

That's not hate/bias, it's historical fact.

It seems to me you are just looking at Sony consoles alone which says it all really regarding bias and hate, head out the sand and look at the big picture if you please.



Qwark said:
thismeintiel said:

Exactly. That's just like last gen. Sony messing up was a big help for MS, but they still had to play it smart to take advantage of it. That guy is just clearly blinded by bias and/or hate.

Oh, and I wouldn't really consider the PS3 a disaster. Sure, it had a horrible start, but Sony played it smart and was able to turn it around. Not only did they eventually pass the 360, but they also only sold ~14M-15M less than the Wii and PS1. I guess that could have just been luck.

It sold quite well but it's first years did cost Playstation more money than it ever earned back. Even the PS4 hasn't earned all that money back yet with its profit.

Unles you can calcualte BR winning worth to sony, any profit talk is foolish.