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badgenome said:
CosmicSex said:

Fuck you.   I'm reporting you.

I think you just reported yourself there.

Hiku said:

That explains the water salute on Trump's plane.

LOOOOL

Hahahahahahah



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Russia is playing a part in Trump's presidency? So it seems leftists have all of a sudden become nationalistic against Russia to fit their narrative, many preferring Clinton having been elected, the same person who, along with the democratic party, rigged Bernie Sanders out of the general election. There is nothing democratic about the U.S., especially when it comes to the DNC, whether we're talking about super delegates, the media bias, or whiny liberal millennials that can't grow up and accept that California and New York don't represent all of America. So funny as well how liberals continue to try to remove Trump based on these claims, not realizing if that were to happen, Pence, who is socially more right-wing, and economically much more right-wing, would take his place. Economically speaking, Trump is as left-leaning as Clinton or more based on his views on trade and protectionism. Other than that, socially speaking, sorry if folks can't have walk-in abortions whenever they want or legal marijuana 24/7. Also, this news story has less merit than pizzagate.



Hiku said:
thomvrell said:
Also, this news story has less merit than pizzagate.

Trump hiring prostitutes to pee on a bed seems less likely to you than Hillary running a child sex trafficing organisation in a pizza restaurant?

Well, no, I was putting more emphasis on the Russia discussion, but I didn't clarify. If he did do that with prostitutes, I personally wouldn't care. If either one were true anyways, the magnitude of pizzagate would be much more severe (Child-sex ring) than a wild night with prostitutes. Low probability with high severity vs high probability with low severity. So I'll change my stance to it having no more merit than pizzagate.



Hiku said:

This made me laugh far more than it should have. Thanks!



VP Joe Biden says this dossier *was* mentioned in the intelligence briefing he and the president (and Trump) were given: 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/12/politics/joe-biden-donald-trump-intelligence-report/index.html

So all the people jumping all over CNN might want to ask Mr. Trump if he was either lying about this not being mentioned or not paying attention to the report. 



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Hiku said:
thomvrell said:
Also, this news story has less merit than pizzagate.

Trump hiring prostitutes to pee on a bed seems less likely to you than Hillary running a child sex trafficing organisation in a pizza restaurant?

It seems less relevant, that's for sure... 



Hiku said:
Soundwave said:

VP Joe Biden says this dossier *was* mentioned in the intelligence briefing he and the president (and Trump) were given: 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/12/politics/joe-biden-donald-trump-intelligence-report/index.html

So all the people jumping all over CNN might want to ask Mr. Trump if he was either lying about this not being mentioned or not paying attention to the report. 

Trump even tweeted that "the intelligence agencies should never have allowed this leak to happen"

So this seems to be what was in the report. It's just that it's unverified. Not fake.
It's only fake if it gets debunked.

According to the dossier the hotels he was staying were full of cameras and microphones. I'm sure that it was recorded. Its just a matter of waiting until either Trump angers Putin or someone from the hotel "leaks" the footage to the highest bidder. 



Hiku said:
bunchanumbers said:

According to the dossier the hotels he was staying were full of cameras and microphones. I'm sure that it was recorded. Its just a matter of waiting until either Trump angers Putin or someone from the hotel "leaks" the footage to the highest bidder. 

It is funny that Trump put "leak" in quotation. Gotta give him that. lol

I've been chuckling to myself ever since this... leaked.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/putin-those-who-leaked-trump-dossier-worse-than-prostitutes.html
This was fun speech ))

The series of memos alleged that Russian intelligence had years ago secretly recorded embarrassing footage of Trump in an attempt to compromise the then-business magnate. Putin dismissed that claim as “an obvious fake.”

“Trump, when he came to Moscow a few years ago, was not a politician,” Putin said. “We did not even know about his political ambitions,” Putin said. “He was just a businessman, one of the richest men in America. Is someone really thinking that our intelligence agencies are chasing every American billionaire, or what? Of course not. It’s just a complete nonsense.”

He said some seem “ready to organize a ‘Maidan’ in Washington," in reference to the alleged U.S. role in organizing protests in the main square of the Ukrainian capital of Kiev. That action helped chase the nation's Russia-friendly president from power in 2014.

Putin cited two goals he believed were behind the leaking of the allegations: (1) to undermine Trump’s “legitimacy” and (2) “to tie the hands and legs of the newly-elected president related to the implementation of his pre-election campaign promises to the American people and the international community.”

“Prostitution is an ugly social phenomenon . . . but people who order such fakes, which are now used against the elected president of the United States, fabricate information and use it in the political struggle, they are worse than prostitutes,” Putin said, according to a translation by Sputnik News. “They have no moral limits.”