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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Tegra X1 (Switch GPU?) Throttles To 768 MHz (Eurogamer Correct Again?)

AsGryffynn on 10 January 2017

If true, then specs might not necessarily as bad as we thought...



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curl-6 on 10 January 2017
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

Like when you predicted Switch would be 600 Gigaflops or more, claimed bonzo's prediction of 400 was unrealistically low,

and that Switch would "gets lots of PS4/XBox One games with no noticeable downgrades"?

Not true, my expectations were 500-600 Gigaflops, and that was realistic prediction based on performance of Tegra X1 chip, but Nintendo downclocked Tegra X1 and that directly influence performance. So nothing was unrealistic about 500-600 gigaflops for based Tegra X1 Switch, you sound like I said 1-1.5TF, lol.

Not true, I never said it will get lots a PS4/XBox One games, but that multiplatforms games that Switch will get will be ports of XB1/PS4 games not build from ground games for Switch, and that biggest downgrade will be lower resolution with few other downgrades compared to XB1/PS4. Also nothing unrealistic.

Actually, you did claim both those things at certain points. Your claims change constantly; at various times over the past two months you have claimed everything from "no noticeable downgrades" to "no downgrades except resolution" and then "some downgraded effects and 720p". You've been wrong about Switch's capabilities before, so your predictions that it will considerably exceed Wii U/PS3/360 graphically could be wrong as well. 



Miyamotoo on 11 January 2017
Scisca said:
Miyamotoo said:

No they didn't, that was said buy Nvidia on Nvidia site about Switch, not buy Nintendo, Nintendo never said that. Nintendo still didn't said anything about power, tech, architecture, or about capabilities of Switch, basically everything Nintendo said about Switch till now is in Switch initial trailer.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/

Let's be serious, everything they've said has been agreed upon and Nintendo takes full responsibility for it.

Switch chip is Nvidias chip and they talked about it, while like I wrote: "Nintendo still didn't said anything about power, tech, architecture, or about capabilities of Switch". Clear fact is that Nvidia said that not Nintendo, so you cant say in any case that Nintendo lied about that when still they didn't said anything.

 

curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Not true, my expectations were 500-600 Gigaflops, and that was realistic prediction based on performance of Tegra X1 chip, but Nintendo downclocked Tegra X1 and that directly influence performance. So nothing was unrealistic about 500-600 gigaflops for based Tegra X1 Switch, you sound like I said 1-1.5TF, lol.

Not true, I never said it will get lots a PS4/XBox One games, but that multiplatforms games that Switch will get will be ports of XB1/PS4 games not build from ground games for Switch, and that biggest downgrade will be lower resolution with few other downgrades compared to XB1/PS4. Also nothing unrealistic.

Actually, you did claim both those things at certain points. Your claims change constantly; at various times over the past two months you have claimed everything from "no noticeable downgrades" to "no downgrades except resolution" and then "some downgraded effects and 720p". You've been wrong about Switch's capabilities before, so your predictions that it will considerably exceed Wii U/PS3/360 graphically could be wrong as well. 

Some things you wrote are not true and with some I disagree, same goes with your previous post. Switch presentation is in less than 2 days, I really don't have attention to spend any my time in pointless arguing with you, so this is my last post.



Soundwave on 11 January 2017

Remember the "Wii will have equal graphics to the XBox 360/PS3, just at SD resolution instead of HD resolution, don't worry guys" mantra circa 2005/06 ....



Miyamotoo on 11 January 2017
Soundwave said:
Remember the "Wii will have equal graphics to the XBox 360/PS3, just at SD resolution instead of HD resolution, don't worry guys" mantra circa 2005/06 ....

Wii was 20-30x less powerful than PS3/Xbox360, not to mention that this time Switch will have actually more modern tech/architecture than PS4/XB1 and support for all modern engines, and that wasnt case with Wii and Wii U.



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Emme on 11 January 2017

Just to be clear: the Wii U did have some games run at 1080p, right ? And the Switch will never exceed 720p, right ?



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bdbdbd on 11 January 2017
Emme said:
Just to be clear: the Wii U did have some games run at 1080p, right ? And the Switch will never exceed 720p, right ?

Undocked Switch will never exceed 720p (because that's the screen resolution). Don't know about Wii U, as I only have a 720p TV.



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Sh1nn on 11 January 2017
Miyamotoo said:
Soundwave said:
Remember the "Wii will have equal graphics to the XBox 360/PS3, just at SD resolution instead of HD resolution, don't worry guys" mantra circa 2005/06 ....

Wii was 20-30x less powerful than PS3/Xbox360, not to mention that this time Switch will have actually more modern tech/architecture than PS4/XB1 and support for all modern engines, and that wasnt case with Wii and Wii U.

And Switch is only 10x less powerful than PS4. 

People also should note that Switch is a portable ~150GF machine first and foremost and that there wont be any dock exclusive games.

Dock will be used for resolution/performance scale, but the core game will be build for portable mode.



ElPresidente7 on 11 January 2017

I really dont get peoples obsession with the architecture.
The main difference between Pascal and Maxwell is just the fabrication process. While Maxwell was fab on 28nm .. Switch wil likely be 20nm. From an architectural pov Pascal and Maxwell are rather similar.



curl-6 on 11 January 2017
Emme said:
Just to be clear: the Wii U did have some games run at 1080p, right ? And the Switch will never exceed 720p, right ?

Yes, some Wii U games were 1080p; Smash Bros, Rayman Legends, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Wind Waker HD, and Twilight Princess HD, to name a few.

 

Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

Actually, you did claim both those things at certain points. Your claims change constantly; at various times over the past two months you have claimed everything from "no noticeable downgrades" to "no downgrades except resolution" and then "some downgraded effects and 720p". You've been wrong about Switch's capabilities before, so your predictions that it will considerably exceed Wii U/PS3/360 graphically could be wrong as well. 

Some things you wrote are not true and with some I disagree, same goes with your previous post. Switch presentation is in less than 2 days, I really don't have attention to spend any my time in pointless arguing with you, so this is my last post.

You are free to disagree with me, just be aware that I make a note of the claims you make for future reference.