Hynad said:
Cue LudicrousSpeed's ban. |
I wasn't talking about it with just one post or two. Of course, relevant posts should be taken in context with it.
Hynad said:
Cue LudicrousSpeed's ban. |
I wasn't talking about it with just one post or two. Of course, relevant posts should be taken in context with it.
RolStoppable said:
The specific case we are talking about is Kerotan's ban. Kerotan has a habit of exploiting the rules. One such exploit is trolling via unjustified positivity where moderate success or even outright mediocrity is portrayed as a huge accomplishment in order to get a rise out of other people. Kerotan is the poster child for the paragraph I emphasized in your post and he has been for years. His priority is clearly on trolling rather than flaming, but either kind of offense is bad. Kerotan's ban isn't something that needs to make the average VGC member worry about having to navigate through a minefield in order to not get banned. You've got to be a Kerotan to have something to worry about. |
So? You're proving my point with making him sound nefarious for being overexcited or overreactive to something. That's really splitting hairs to justify it. These are almost of micro-pet peeves or annoyances. It's a far cry from trolling unless you use a very broad stroke. It sounds like a strong bias on his part but that's it in my opinion.
So you're telling me this? "Woo hoo, my team did really well. Woo hoo." ....in a dark corner, the others grow annoyed when the noise of his celebration reaches them..... "Woo hoo. Woo Hoo. My team won. Woo Hoo". .......They begin to growl as their rage begins to boil out of control.... As the happy go luck frog finally decides to move on, he is swallowed up by the darkness of the others...... ..as they begin to calm down they realize they need to justify their actions.....In hushed whispers, they rationlize it out...... "the evil frog was asking for it! He was taunting us with his hopping about"....."what right does he have to flaunt"......"That evil frog was plotting.....it must have been".... "no way we could lose control".....that damn frog...
Bandorr said: Is calling someone a Nazi sympathizer actually a banable offense? No one is going to be ok with being called an idiot, that is an attack on your intelligence. Some people will ok with being told that are sympathizing with Nazi's. Some people actually identify as Nazi's/Neo-Nazi's. |
I guess the issue is that most of them don't overtly call themselves one. 97alexk was the only self-identified Nazi that I remember on this site.
Bandorr said:
If someone is going around chanting "Blood and Soil" I think it is a good sign they are either A) a Nazi B) want to be a Nazi or C) at least sympathize with a Nazi. I just like knowing that I can say it when it is actually true, and not get banned for it. The creator of Godwin's law actually supports calling such people Nazi's. Including a special "someone" I won't bring up for now. I mean don't just throw it around like "idiot", but there are times it is acutally applicable as opposed to say "fanboy". Fanboy and idiot will never be accurate and can only be insults. Nazi Sympathizer while an insult - can actually be true. |
Huh? Did I read that right? Are you talking about just within this forum or about in the general sense?
RolStoppable said: Being called a nazi or nazi sympathizer includes being labeled an idiot by default. That's because it takes an idiot - and not just a low level one, but a high rank idiot - to take such a stance. If there's no truth to someone being a nazi or a sympathizer, it is an insult of the highest grade. It constitutes labeling someone as one of the worst people alive without any justification. |
Just quoting this because I wholeheartedly agree.
RolStoppable said:
The specific case we are talking about is Kerotan's ban. Kerotan has a habit of exploiting the rules. One such exploit is trolling via unjustified positivity where moderate success or even outright mediocrity is portrayed as a huge accomplishment in order to get a rise out of other people. Kerotan is the poster child for the paragraph I emphasized in your post and he has been for years. His priority is clearly on trolling rather than flaming, but either kind of offense is bad. Kerotan's ban isn't something that needs to make the average VGC member worry about having to navigate through a minefield in order to not get banned. You've got to be a Kerotan to have something to worry about. |
Unless you're a mind reader you wouldn't know what's on Kerotan's intent with his posts. You can only judge the post by their content when moderating. Him saying system x sales are low compared to system y should not be moddable post. The way moderations are made is like creating safe spaces for people not to be offended by facts. Looking at Kerotan's latest ban, his post is factually correct and yet he got modded because the mod believes it would offend others. Which is absolutely crazy.
RolStoppable said:
If that's how you perceive the situation, then your sense of judgment is clearly broken. |
Aeolus is right though - he painted a good picture of the situation. Your sense of judgement is not the right sense of judgement, btw - it's only your own.
Aeolus451 said: So you're telling me this? "Woo hoo, my team did really well. Woo hoo." ....in a dark corner, the others grow annoyed when the noise of his celebration reaches them..... "Woo hoo. Woo Hoo. My team won. Woo Hoo". .......They begin to growl as their rage begins to boil out of control.... As the happy go luck frog finally decides to move on, he is swallowed up by the darkness of the others...... ..as they begin to calm down they realize they need to justify their actions.....In hushed whispers, they rationlize it out...... "the evil frog was asking for it! He was taunting us with his hopping about"....."what right does he have to flaunt"......"That evil frog was plotting.....it must have been".... "no way we could lose control".....that damn frog... |
The fact that you just made a very competent pity story out of the frog's post history is somewhat impressive, but also a weird stretch.
Lawlight said:
Aeolus is right though - he painted a good picture of the situation. Your sense of judgement is not the right sense of judgement, btw - it's only your own. |
Pokemon XY outsold Pokemon BW so pokemon isnt a decline. Glad we had this talk
tbone51 said:
Pokemon XY outsold Pokemon BW so pokemon isnt a decline. Glad we had this talk |
How could I have predicted Pokemon Go? Btw, what's the best selling Pokemon game?