A few times yeah, you see the problem is, when someone is being a dickhead, I have a tendancy to say so.
Yeah, I have a similar issue
Someone made an (obviously) biased post accusing 'leftist sjw' ABC for taking off a shitty show and claimed it was because one of the dudes was republican lol. Called him out, got the typical 'triggered sjw liberal' response from him as he wondered why I was criticizing him in a discussion.
Told him to stop being such a fucking dumbass if he expects me to not call him out and got my first ban. Ever since then I've been more harsh without the direct tone, so I guess I found a way out of it(?)
I seriously need a list of news outlets that are considered 'leftist'. It seems like you can't use aything as a reliable source anymore, because almost all media are being called biased.
Someone made an (obviously) biased post accusing 'leftist sjw' ABC for taking off a shitty show and claimed it was because one of the dudes was republican lol. Called him out, got the typical 'triggered sjw liberal' response from him as he wondered why I was criticizing him in a discussion.
Told him to stop being such a fucking dumbass if he expects me to not call him out and got my first ban. Ever since then I've been more harsh without the direct tone, so I guess I found a way out of it(?)
I seriously need a list of news outlets that are considered 'leftist'. It seems like you can't use aything as a reliable source anymore, because almost all media are being called biased.
It's not that hard, really. Are you Fox News or Info Wars? No? Well then you're biased leftist fake news.
If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.
It's not that hard, really. Are you Fox News or Info Wars? No? Well then you're biased leftist fake news.
Never heard of info wars... but isn`t Fox News like one of the most biased and faked news there is? Probably second only to the North Korean news or something
The level of downplaying he displayed is trolling and it shouldn't really matter if it incites negative responses or not. His posts were verifiably rubbish and deliberate. It's a situation that is very much comparable to complaining that an open world game runs at 30 fps. The poster in question doesn't leave much room for doubt that he is trying to test how much bullshit he can get away with.
Yup.
It's concern trolling and stealth trolling. The downplay and negativity regarding what Switch is actually doing is off the charts, and with Kerotan's history of trying to get a rise out of people it's easy for the mod team to see what he's doing.
It was brought up in mod chat and 5 out of 5 moderators all agreed it was trolling, including one of the heads.
People should grow some thicker skin if they can't handle seeing opinions that they disagree with to be trolling.
Well this all depends on the situation. If someone is constantly positive about one thing, while often putting down others, their opinion has now moved into chest-beaitng (which is usually followed, or accompanied, by Trolling).
Cue LudicrousSpeed's ban.
At first, I thought the ban was unjustified, because the comment linked in his ban note was mild at best, and could have been a real question. But then his subsequent replies gave it away...
Is it ok to be labeling someone as a "Nazi sympathizer" so callously?
I don't believe that post was ever reported, and it was just posted this morning. I ask that you report these and give us a chance to action them before bringing them up there.
Yeah. You slow pokes sometime take nearly a full day before acting on some reported comments.
People should grow some thicker skin if they can't handle seeing opinions that they disagree with to be trolling.
If that kind of ruling was applied, then people would be free to say whatever they want. It would be empowerment of jerks and that runs contrary to the goal of having intelligent discussions. The effect of this can be seen in political threads where moderation is laxer than in the other forums, because most members of the mod team are hardly interested in politics and are unsure when and how much they should interfere. People whose opinions are suppressed in gaming discussions have a tendency to express their true self in political discussions because of the greater leeway. There's quite a strong correlation between troublemakers in politics and troublemakers in gaming, or would-be troublemakers in gaming.
Your suggestion is that people should grow a thicker thin, but the better course of action is to force people who are repeatedly trolling to think more about what they post. Not everyone in the community can be pleased, so what needs to be considered is who and what is the greater loss. Option 1: Ban a troublemaker repeatedly and the worst thing that can happen is that it ends with a permaban or that the troublemaker leaves voluntarily; the latter may also apply to supporters of the troublemaker, provided there are any. Option 2: Don't moderate and you risk that people who are interested in good discourse retreat from discussions or don't bother entering them altogether. Both of the aforementioned options also come with a ripple effect; they determine which kind of new members are going to be attracted to post in the forums.
No. People would be able to say what they want within the normal rules unless they clearly step over them or using a proxy. I have a problem with splitting hairs to find a meaning that might be there and using that as a cause to ban someone over something that doesn't break the rules but offends people for whatever reason like Kerotan's post. A controversial or offensive-only-to-a-small-group opinion spoken a few times doesn't make it trolling so saying the same things a hundred times more doesn't make it trolling regardless if it infuriates a group or not. Especially if the comment is related to the topic, you shouldn't be able to conflate a post that doesn't break any rules outright with trolling. At that point, you can permaban someone because they can't walk a tightrope. Do you really think this sort of shit is a big deal? How much time do you think the mods waste dicking around with trying to figure if an innocent post is indeed trolling or just a user giving a controversial opinion?
There's a huge difference in between the level of chaos just giving an opinion that's not liked repeatedly and people indirectly attacking others using loopholes with the intent to troll or flame. I think users using loopholes to attack others is a bigger problem and it's tolerated to the point of being ignored.
Attacking others' character by attacking public persons or groups or other person's character traits but because the groups or persons are of the outside of gaming it's not seen as a trolling or flaming. ugh. It's an asisinine loophole that a lot of people use to jab at eachother especially the users who been here awhile. *wink wink An easy example of this is "People who voted for trump are idiots". You can call anyone anything using that method. Another example of this "If you were a video character, I wonder if you would be related to Sandel...". Sometimes, this stuff is moderated and often times it's not. It just depends on far it's pushed.
Another practice that I've noticed but it is allowed is a user (an alt likely) says something that gets them banned or moderated that's really bad but 50 people reply to it say they agree to the post or expand on the spirit of it without any risk of moderaton. They are more saying themselves but the proxy took the fall for it. This is related in a way to posting videos or articles with things in them if written out in the forum would get them banned but because it's someone else's opinion or content, it's given a pass.
Here's an example of that.
People love this spanish guy meme. I remember it was a little way back but this one (below) was used in a spiderman thread and it was not taken well.
This stuff is actual stealth trolling because it's safe from moderation thanks to the rules framed and the intent behind them is often to cause mischief. To be honest, the mods could have changed some of the ways they've handle those but definitely not all. i don't know how arguing over numbers or sales predictions could be seen as trolling but me calling someone an idiot is a roundabout way or using a vid to do it is not.
People should be able to handle disagreeable opinions (especially if they are civil) on the internet without being offended or feeling compelled to flag or moderate a person. That's not a perfect or ideal world but a very rational and sensible one. If they can't then yes they should grow some thicker skin. I rather the community be able to express any opinions just so long as they are not attacking or indirectly attacking others. It's the least toxic with the best chances at geniune discussion and it doesn't favor any groups who report excessively. I don't care if someone is wrong and they want to say that thing a hundred times but it bothers some people. Tough titty.
I have more faith in the community than what your worst case scenario implies about them being unable to handle opinions. I think they'll get used to it, adapt, debate and converse with others. The whole point of coming here is not for numbers or getting into a circle jerk echo chamber but to converse with others who have a similar hobby. Debating and disagreeing is a part of that.
