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kirby007 said:
Since when are predictions made on a different site used as ammo against the users here?

its kind impossible to search anything here, it doesn't matter resetera is is just a bigger vgchartz thats extremely sensitive and leans to the left by a gigantic margin. 



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CGI-Quality said:
quickrick said:

remember we made a bet, and you lost even with switch having  extra week in January, you were sure switch would outsell ps4 in the US eventually.

That’s very different from what you said before. ^_*

Besides, the systems aren’t done selling yet.

yea it was long time ago, but you were pretty sure it would, and yea the holidays are here, so we should get a good picture.



quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Do you not see this goalpost change? You went from easily outsell this year to outsell in the US eventually. Those are two completely different things yet you act like they are interchangeable statements.

It's ok to make mistake like I did here I dont see the problem as long as i admit or fix it, you are talking about a bet from a year ago, you assume I'm a liar because you have a agenda. There are many people that make stuff up I'm not one them, sometimes I post some wrong info that i assumed was correct then I admit it was wrong so please to stop with calling me a liar I don't appreciate it.

You didn't admit nor fix it though, all you did was change goalposts like you constantly do after making false claims.



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quickrick said:
CGI-Quality said:

That’s very different from what you said before. ^_*

Besides, the systems aren’t done selling yet.

yea it was long time ago, but you were pretty sure it would, and yea the holidays are here, so we should get a good picture.

See, this is where you run into problems. You were initially sure that I said the Switch would 'easily outsell PS4'. Then it became 'you said it would outsell the PS4 in the US eventually'. That is why I told you in our discussions to step back and think about your words before hitting Submit. One of the biggest pieces of feedback came in this form — that you have a tendency not to admit being wrong and you move goalposts.

Also, look at the current direction of the thread. It has become all about you (meaning you're either defending yourself or having to call someone out to protect your viewpoint). That, alone, should tell you that there are major changes needed coming from your direction. If you change nothing, people will continue to find reason to attack you. You can't forever cry foul when you bring much of the turmoil on yourself.

As with our PMs, I'm just trying to help you. Let the last few days be your best guides.

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CGI-Quality said:
quickrick said:

yea it was long time ago, but you were pretty sure it would, and yea the holidays are here, so we should get a good picture.

This is where you have problems. You were initially sure that I said the Switch would 'easily outsell PS4'. Then it became 'you said it would outsell the PS4 in the US eventually'. That is why I told you in our discussions to step back in think about your words before hitting Submit. One of the biggest pieces of feedback came in this form - that you have a tendency to not admit being wrong and you move goalposts.

Also, look at the current direction of the thread. It has become all about you (meaning you're either defending yourself or having to call someone out to protect your viewpoint). That, alone, should tell you that there are major changes needed coming from your direction. If you change nothing, people will continue to find reason to attack you. You can't forever cry foul when you bring much of the turmoil on yourself.

As with our PMs, I'm just trying to help you. Let the last few days be your best guides.

I understand what you are saying i'll be more accurate hitting the submit button since people that imo have a agenda use as fuel against me, but is that called lying? like the above poster claims, no i assumed something that i thought i was true with out being 100%, sure its wrong, but some are making it bigger then it is. i'm gonna focus on fixing that i will post something and make sure its accurate, before assuming.



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quickrick said:
CGI-Quality said:

This is where you have problems. You were initially sure that I said the Switch would 'easily outsell PS4'. Then it became 'you said it would outsell the PS4 in the US eventually'. That is why I told you in our discussions to step back in think about your words before hitting Submit. One of the biggest pieces of feedback came in this form - that you have a tendency to not admit being wrong and you move goalposts.

Also, look at the current direction of the thread. It has become all about you (meaning you're either defending yourself or having to call someone out to protect your viewpoint). That, alone, should tell you that there are major changes needed coming from your direction. If you change nothing, people will continue to find reason to attack you. You can't forever cry foul when you bring much of the turmoil on yourself.

As with our PMs, I'm just trying to help you. Let the last few days be your best guides.

I understand what you are saying i'll be more accurate hitting the submit button since people that imo have a agenda use as fuel against me, but is that called lying? like the above poster claims, no i assumed something that i thought i was true with out being 100%, sure its wrong, but some are making it bigger then it is. i'm gonna focus on fixing that i will post something and make sure its accurate, before assuming.

It may not necessarily be lying, but it can cause problems if you say someone did/said something that you aren't entirely sure of. And the biggest issues you'll face on the site are history and patterns. People are less forgiving when they see your name pop up, because they'll think 'oh great, it's quickrick/cliffman/troll' or what have you. I am not personally bothered by you misremembering my words, but I can understand why it would bother others. 

Coming back to the root of this discussion — moderation. The mod team receives lots of flack for letting what I noted above slide without a second look. Do not take this as me trying to call you out, I'm merely stating where my hands get tied. Sure, I don't always agree with every complaint/piece of feedback, but you need to put yourself in my position for a second. *This is just an example* · I step in and moderate Rol, right? He attacked/flamed you. Sure. Fine and dandy. Perhaps he went too far, calling you some name. Now, how does it look when I hear from others similar complaints of the situation to which Rol fell prey to? Was it really just him after all? Should everyone else see moderations while you continue hopping from thread-to-thread with bear traps ready to be deployed? What do I do, collect your traps and protect you? Protect Rol? Leave it be and hope it resolves itself?

I want you to think about what I'm saying and, if you would, provide answers to those questions. Then we can proceed to Phase 2.

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CGI-Quality said:
quickrick said:

I understand what you are saying i'll be more accurate hitting the submit button since people that imo have a agenda use as fuel against me, but is that called lying? like the above poster claims, no i assumed something that i thought i was true with out being 100%, sure its wrong, but some are making it bigger then it is. i'm gonna focus on fixing that i will post something and make sure its accurate, before assuming.

It may not necessarily be lying, but it can cause problems if you say someone did/said something that you aren't entirely sure of. And the biggest issues you'll face on the site are history and patterns. People are less forgiving when they see your name pop up, because they'll think 'oh great, it's quickrick/cliffman/troll' or what have you. I am not personally bothered by you misremembering my words, but I can understand why it would bother others. 

Coming back to the root of this discussion — moderation. The mod team receives lots of flack for letting what I noted above slide without a second look. Do not take this as me trying to call you out, I'm merely stating where my hands get tied. Sure, I don't always agree with every complaint/piece of feedback, but you need to put yourself in my position for a second. *This is just an example* · I step in and moderate Rol, right? He attacked/flamed you. Sure. Fine and dandy. Perhaps he went too far, calling you some name. Now, how does it look when I hear from others similar complaints of the trap to which Rol fell prey to? Was it really just him after all? Should everyone else see moderations while you continue hopping from thread-to-thread with bear traps ready to be deployed?

I just want you to think what I'm saying. 

I agree with you, and understand you have a job and ill be more careful. honestly wish every mod was fair and neutral like you, and pemalite.

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I'm just going to say, I strongly appreciate the fact you respond to every user in a civil, respectful, cordial and thorough manner CGI.

You've really lived up to the Head Mod status.

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quickrick said:
CGI-Quality said:

It may not necessarily be lying, but it can cause problems if you say someone did/said something that you aren't entirely sure of. And the biggest issues you'll face on the site are history and patterns. People are less forgiving when they see your name pop up, because they'll think 'oh great, it's quickrick/cliffman/troll' or what have you. I am not personally bothered by you misremembering my words, but I can understand why it would bother others. 

Coming back to the root of this discussion — moderation. The mod team receives lots of flack for letting what I noted above slide without a second look. Do not take this as me trying to call you out, I'm merely stating where my hands get tied. Sure, I don't always agree with every complaint/piece of feedback, but you need to put yourself in my position for a second. *This is just an example* · I step in and moderate Rol, right? He attacked/flamed you. Sure. Fine and dandy. Perhaps he went too far, calling you some name. Now, how does it look when I hear from others similar complaints of the trap to which Rol fell prey to? Was it really just him after all? Should everyone else see moderations while you continue hopping from thread-to-thread with bear traps ready to be deployed?

I just want you to think what I'm saying. 

I agree with you, and understand you have a job and ill be more careful. honestly wish every mod was fair and neutral like you, and pemalite.

As for the the second part to be fair rol has been trying to get me banned since i got here, it was like a mission for him, so i'm not surprised that he will eventually get his way by forming a group and messaging people to actively complain about me, the guy dream is to be a mod, and this community seems to be a big part of his life, very popular poster, so i'm sure he's actively working on the down low to try and get rid of me, which imo is fine after the holidays i will probably stop posting here, so he can have his celebration. 

I appreciate the first part (though I've made my share of mistakes).

The second part, however, is a continuation of your problem, rick. Forget about Rol's desire to be a mod, or a personal vendetta, or his popularity, etc, etc. A) It is technically Flaming. So, please step away from that. You know what has to happen if you continue. B) You cannot improve until you start with your own issues. I told you in the PM (much like I've told Rol), let him be the one to mess up. A moderator can then step in and handle it. 

We've gotten pretty off topic, so I want to let this be my last reply. I'll let you respond, but from there, let's get things back on track.

 

morenoingrato said: 

I'm just going to say, I strongly appreciate the fact you respond to every user in a civil, respectful, cordial and thorough manner CGI.

You've really lived up to the Head Mod status.

I've still got some rough edges to smooth, but this is greatly appreciated. :)



                                                                                                                                     

quickrick said:

I agree with you, and understand you have a job and ill be more careful. honestly wish every mod was fair and neutral like you, and pemalite.

As for the the second part to be fair rol has been trying to get me banned since i got here, it was like a mission for him, so i'm not surprised that he will eventually get his way by forming a group and messaging people to actively complain about me, the guy dream is to be a mod, and this community seems to be a big part of his life, the guy flames people left and right, but get's away with it because he is   very popular poster. I'm sure he's actively working on the down low to try and get rid of me, which imo is fine after the holidays i will probably stop posting here, so he can have his celebration. 

Permalite literally just tried to steer you away from this conspiracy theory about mods working against you and here you go again.



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