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Carl2291 said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Let me guess, someone predicted nintendo selling worst than it did and now the same old same old are packing like voltures around him?

"The best way to solve any problem is to remove the cause of that problem."

who? the group of harassers  that do the same thing since ages and dont give a fuck about rules or the new guy that just makes wrong predictions?

Calling someone out on wrong predictions, especially when they're being so cocky and sure about themselves, is never going to be considered as harassment or bullying. When they continue to move goalposts and deny the clear facts in front of them, they have all that's coming their way. The problem arises when they continue to display the disruptive behavior and it drags threads into slagging matches. 

Kerotan said:

Yeah we will always have posters like Rick or myself who have controversial opinions. But the group of harassers need to be sorted out. That behaviour reminds me of gaf..

The sooner you stop playing the victim and acknowledge the problems that you directly caused on this forum, the sooner people on this forum will actually start to like you.

 

Do you really believe that? Obviously many on here like me. Btw when did vgchartz turn into a popularity contest?

 

Received this pm yesterday from a guy I didnt even think liked me. The sooner this siege mentality against Kerotan is cleaned off the site the better. Anyway here is the message. I deleted the name because the guy deserves the respect of anomity. Something I've not been respected with regarding posts I report on here. 

 

You're good anger management material

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I have to thank you, Kero. You have helped me learn how to have some more self-restraint, and to relieve my frustrations in ways other than saying or doing something on the site that could get me banned


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Miguel_Zorro said:
Kerotan said:

 Anyway here is the message. I deleted the name because the guy deserves the respect of anomity. 

 

You're good anger management material

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I have to thank you, Kero. You have helped me learn how to have some more self-restraint, and to relieve my frustrations in ways other than saying or doing something on the site that could get me banned

They used the correct version of "You're". So we can really narrow it down to figure out who it is.

Haha let the search commence! 



Kerotan said:
Miguel_Zorro said:

They used the correct version of "You're". So we can really narrow it down to figure out who it is.

Haha let the search commence! 

Quickrick



 "I think people should define the word crap" - Kirby007

Join the Prediction League http://www.vgchartz.com/predictions

Instead of seeking to convince others, we can be open to changing our own minds, and seek out information that contradicts our own steadfast point of view. Maybe it’ll turn out that those who disagree with you actually have a solid grasp of the facts. There’s a slight possibility that, after all, you’re the one who’s wrong.

Kerotan said:
Miguel_Zorro said:

They used the correct version of "You're". So we can really narrow it down to figure out who it is.

Haha let the search commence! 

It's obviously RolStoppable.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Kerotan said:

Do you really believe that? Obviously many on here like me. Btw when did vgchartz turn into a popularity contest?

Received this pm yesterday from a guy I didnt even think liked me. The sooner this siege mentality against Kerotan is cleaned off the site the better. Anyway here is the message. I deleted the name because the guy deserves the respect of anomity. Something I've not been respected with regarding posts I report on here. 

 

You're good anger management material

(Delete Message)Participants:

I have to thank you, Kero. You have helped me learn how to have some more self-restraint, and to relieve my frustrations in ways other than saying or doing something on the site that could get me banned

This is actually hilarious.



                            

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Whoever dislikes kerotan should be banned



NoCtiS_NoX said:

Carl2291 said: 

 

It's not necessarily a negative opinion that causes trouble, it's not backing up that negative opinion that causes trouble. It's not admitting you were wrong, when you've been cockily pushing your thoughts on people for the last 30 days.

Did people go too far on quickrick? Possibly. We should have put a post in-thread to tell people that they've had enough fun for one day, but on the other hand? He brought that on himself. When you're so brazen and cocky in your predictions and they go tits up during the very first month of the year, you've got some shit coming your way son. When you refuse to admit you screwed up and you decide to move goalposts instead of admitting you were wrong? Get ready to be ridiculed by people who've been waiting to call you out on it.

The perfect reaction from the mod team to this would have been both a post in-thread and a warning to quickrick. He's had at least one moderation already for ignoring peoples arguments and moving goalposts, I know this without actually double checking his mod history, but he did eventually admit he was wrong in the NPD thread. It's a start. It's an improvement.

We can't let threads be dragged off topic by gangs of people poking at one guy, but we also can't let one guy be so disruptive to the community without proper confrontation by the mod team when he doesn't take responsibility for his actions.

We either go after the group of people mocking the disruptive party, or we remove the disruptive party from the situation.

How about both? What good it will do if you just moderate one? And see my response above with rol. 

Acevil said:

Out of curiosity, why didn't you stop arguing with Miyamato that one media create thread. It was very similar, just slightly on the smaller scale (Media creates don't go 300 posts usually). In this example one user actually harassed the guy to the point it was harassment. 

I gave him the benefit of the doubt and wanted to show him facts. Out of curiosity did you miss the part that a mod step in and proper moderation was given. Also, Miyamoto wishes to continue it via PM?
Out of curiosity do you want Miyamoto to be perma banned as well? This is a legit question.

Did I insult him and bait him every chance I get on the next thread or the next thread after that? Did I baited him when PS4 outselling NSW for 5-6 times in a row now?  No need to gloat. The facts are there. It's up to him if he still thinks that way though. I just simply move on. Can I say the same thing about the NPD thread? Or some people cannot just let it go? to the point that they will resort to personal insult and constant baiting.

If Miyamoto continued the same trend for weeks, yes, I would want a ban, and if he continues further eventual permaban. I would argue that is what Goodnightmoon was, and he was banned and eventually permabanned, and rightfully so. 

But did you file complaint and tell Kero to knock it off, when Kero started butting in your argument and when he started actually insulting Miyamoto. Or when Kero made thread about the subject matter of cannibalization clearly directed at him? Moderator did eventually step in your situation to knock it off, but have they been doing that with quickrick consistently, the answer is no they have not. That is why Carl said his statement in this thread, that they should do that for. Which I am willing to accept, and if that happens I do not need to comment on that subject. No reason to point out wrong doing if it is being taken care of. 

Also I don't believe I have once properly insulted quickrick, just showcase his own logic against him, and at this time he has earned no sympathy from me, to tell other users to stop.



 

ok i was wrong about the falling of the cliff comment, i should have said it won't keep momentum, which i still believe to be true. really i see no difference in people being super cocky about switch saying it will do 7 million in the US with out any real evidence to support those numbers, but nobody starts throwing personal insults at them. besides after switch had a impressive december, i  already stated i thought it would slightly down for the year.

carl in the npd thread said ps4 wheels are starting to fall off, should we start using that as a meme if ps4 sales better then switch the next NPD?

Anyway despite taking personal insults, I sill think the mods here do a good job of not supporting the hive mind.

Last edited by quickrick - on 24 February 2018

quickrick said:

carl in the npd thread said ps4 wheels are starting to fall off, should we start using that as a meme if ps4 sales better then switch the next NPD?

Go for it, people might actually remember that I'm still around.



                            

RolStoppable said:
quickrick said:

ok i was wrong about the falling of the cliff comment, i should have said it won't keep momentum, which i still believe to be true. really i see no difference in people being super cocky about switch saying it will do 7 million in the US with out any real evidence to support those numbers, but nobody starts throwing personal insults at them. besides after switch had a impressive december, i  already stated i thought it would slightly down for the year.

carl in the npd thread said ps4 wheels are starting to fall off, should we start using that as a meme if ps4 sales better then switch the next NPD?

Any despite taking personal insults, I sill think the mods here do a good job of not supporting the hive mind.

We will, but only after Carl has repeated that statement across a dozen of threads and later on revised his claim to merely mean that the PS4 has no spare tyres anymore.

Thats true, thats' why i didn't complain to the mods, i  brought that on myself. I hope we can move on from that now, and people will stop using it.