NoCtiS_NoX said:
Carl2291 said:
It's not necessarily a negative opinion that causes trouble, it's not backing up that negative opinion that causes trouble. It's not admitting you were wrong, when you've been cockily pushing your thoughts on people for the last 30 days.
Did people go too far on quickrick? Possibly. We should have put a post in-thread to tell people that they've had enough fun for one day, but on the other hand? He brought that on himself. When you're so brazen and cocky in your predictions and they go tits up during the very first month of the year, you've got some shit coming your way son. When you refuse to admit you screwed up and you decide to move goalposts instead of admitting you were wrong? Get ready to be ridiculed by people who've been waiting to call you out on it.
The perfect reaction from the mod team to this would have been both a post in-thread and a warning to quickrick. He's had at least one moderation already for ignoring peoples arguments and moving goalposts, I know this without actually double checking his mod history, but he did eventually admit he was wrong in the NPD thread. It's a start. It's an improvement.
We can't let threads be dragged off topic by gangs of people poking at one guy, but we also can't let one guy be so disruptive to the community without proper confrontation by the mod team when he doesn't take responsibility for his actions.
We either go after the group of people mocking the disruptive party, or we remove the disruptive party from the situation.
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How about both? What good it will do if you just moderate one? And see my response above with rol.
Acevil said:
Out of curiosity, why didn't you stop arguing with Miyamato that one media create thread. It was very similar, just slightly on the smaller scale (Media creates don't go 300 posts usually). In this example one user actually harassed the guy to the point it was harassment.
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I gave him the benefit of the doubt and wanted to show him facts. Out of curiosity did you miss the part that a mod step in and proper moderation was given. Also, Miyamoto wishes to continue it via PM? Out of curiosity do you want Miyamoto to be perma banned as well? This is a legit question.
Did I insult him and bait him every chance I get on the next thread or the next thread after that? Did I baited him when PS4 outselling NSW for 5-6 times in a row now? No need to gloat. The facts are there. It's up to him if he still thinks that way though. I just simply move on. Can I say the same thing about the NPD thread? Or some people cannot just let it go? to the point that they will resort to personal insult and constant baiting.
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If Miyamoto continued the same trend for weeks, yes, I would want a ban, and if he continues further eventual permaban. I would argue that is what Goodnightmoon was, and he was banned and eventually permabanned, and rightfully so.
But did you file complaint and tell Kero to knock it off, when Kero started butting in your argument and when he started actually insulting Miyamoto. Or when Kero made thread about the subject matter of cannibalization clearly directed at him? Moderator did eventually step in your situation to knock it off, but have they been doing that with quickrick consistently, the answer is no they have not. That is why Carl said his statement in this thread, that they should do that for. Which I am willing to accept, and if that happens I do not need to comment on that subject. No reason to point out wrong doing if it is being taken care of.
Also I don't believe I have once properly insulted quickrick, just showcase his own logic against him, and at this time he has earned no sympathy from me, to tell other users to stop.