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Miguel_Zorro said:

Completely useless?  

I'm not going to write a poll where the question is "Should people be moderated for making a false claim if there is refusal to concede that a claim is objectively false?"

Why not? If there are space issues you could ask Talon to increase the character limit.



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vivster said:
I would expand moderation of untruths to people who claim things but refuse to post credible sources. I'm sick of people who post wild claims and then answer with "I read it somewhere, go look it up yourself". Might as well be a false claim then. It stops dead all discussion.

I recently read something like that too. It has such a very annoying tone. 



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I voted yes in the poll.

I'd like to know who voted no, and their reasons for doing so.



                            

Carl2291 said:
I voted yes in the poll.

I'd like to know who voted no, and their reasons for doing so.

If that is adopted by the mod team, I would essentially be able to report and get moderated numerous people who call many regimes socialist despite being social democracies.



It gets pretty annoying when people argue to the ends of the earth about something which is objectively false

That said, it shouldn't be a bannable offence, as it is their opinion and we should be able to express our opinions (with circumstances, of course). Rare exceptions are fine though


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Ka-pi96 said:
VGPolyglot said:

If that is adopted by the mod team, I would essentially be able to report and get moderated numerous people who call many regimes socialist despite being social democracies.

Wouldn't you also be moderated for claiming to be VGPolyglot despite saying that you're not actually a "Polyglot" yet?

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CGI-Quality said:
Platina said:
It gets pretty annoying when people argue to the ends of the earth about something which is objectively false

That said, it shouldn't be a bannable offence, as it is their opinion and we should be able to express our opinions (with circumstances, of course). Rare exceptions are fine though

Repeating your opinion over and over is Spamming, however. We don't need to hear it 5, 10, 15 times. I'm all for Moderating that if you have been told to move on and you continue to repeat the same thing over and over (whether it is true or false).

However, having an opinion shouldn't ever be moderated unless it is abusive in some way and you've been warned about it.

Indeed

But then the user is moderated for spamming, not because of making false claims



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CGI-Quality said:
Platina said:

Indeed

But then the user is moderated for spamming, not because of making false claims

Well, no, but that's not what I was arguing.

You were saying that arguing to the ends of the Earth shouldn't be bannable, but it is if you continue to repeat that same viewpoint over and over. Making false claims is besides that point.

Oh my bad, I was talking about the poll question, not about arguing :p



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CGI-Quality said:
Platina said:
It gets pretty annoying when people argue to the ends of the earth about something which is objectively false

That said, it shouldn't be a bannable offence, as it is their opinion and we should be able to express our opinions (with circumstances, of course). Rare exceptions are fine though

Repeating your opinion over and over is Spamming, however. We don't need to hear it 5, 10, 15 times. I'm all for Moderating that if you have been told to move on and you continue to repeat the same thing over and over (whether it is true or false).

However, having an opinion shouldn't ever be moderated unless it is abusive in some way and you've been warned about it.

Key point highlighted in bold. Would be harsh if a moderation came without any pre warning. 



Carl2291 said:
I voted yes in the poll.

I'd like to know who voted no, and their reasons for doing so.

I also voted no...though it really depends on the intent.

In general, I don't like the idea of moderating ignorance. I think it's a fine line that really shouldn't be crossed, and creates punishment for what might simply be lack of knowledge on a certain topic. I'd much rather allow the community to correct faulty claims than moderate users for those claims.

However...if someone refuses to accept facts after being presented with them, and continues to make the same incorrect statement on a consistent basis despite being corrected in the past, then I'd find that deserving of moderation for either baiting through spreading known false information, or just spamming. 

I suppose it's not a question with one simple answer though.



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