Aeolus451 said:
I was talking about ninty fans in general so I'm right on that. Do you think that my point hinges on if you said something or not. lol It's possible that you said something considering your reaction to me but you did specifically doesn't matter. What holes? Announcing they'll keep producing more minis doesn't matter because they can say anything and no one is gonna hold them to it like it's some kind of contract. They can increase production each year and make sure it doesn't quite meet demand or have too much supply. Scarcity marketing only works on hot products because there has to be some demand in the first place. MS doesn't treat any market outside of the US seriouslly and I don't see why you're bringing up xbox. It doesn't matter who the replacement and I never offered a suggestion. That's a strawman because that point is anyone who fucks up that much would be fired. Who gets job doesn't matter. What analysts say doesn't matter in this. They're guessing for the most part and nintendo has the best idea out of anyone how in demand their product is and they know exactly how much product they can purchase. So? It could play out like that. The wii u sold less than most low ball predictions. There's some ninty fans with prections for the NS being around 150 mil. It's just a prediction. It's not end of the world.
What a way to cherry pick that post. Let's some add some context. "Yeah, man. The shortages happen.... because nintendo is so incompetent...I meant because nintendo has a hard time predicting demand.... that they haven't figured out how to not have to shortages since the NES. There's no way nintendo is using scarcity marketing to help sell their products..... even though they do timed sales, limited run products, limited special editions of products, had repeated shortages over a wide range of their products and...... turned digital DLC (no shortages because it's digital) into toy-like figurines that give you access to exclusive DLC which.... somehow had shortages all the time. gul·li·ble (gŭl′ə-bəl) adj. Easily deceived or duped."
I didn't just call ninty fans gullible and just dip out. Honestly, it wasn't wise to cherry pick/quote that particular post from me..... |
Regarding the SNES mini, what matters isn't that they're making more, it's that they've came out and said "don't worry, we'll make more". If you're using scarcity marketing you don't say that your limited product isn't so limited anymore.
The holes in your theory, you ask?
1 - Why Nintendo didn't use shortages to increase demand of their worse selling consoles like the Wii U?
2 - If Nintendo is as good as you claim at gauging interest, why they make duds like the Gamecube or the Wii U from time to time?
3 - If Nintendo is as good at predicting demand as you claim, why they had a negative shipment of consoles a few years ago?
I brought up Xbox shortages in Japan to block you from trying to escape to point 1 with "well duh, they can't create shortages with such a low demand". Yes, they can. I don't have all day for this, that's why I did it.
Aeolus451 said: It doesn't matter who the replacement and I never offered a suggestion. That's a strawman because that point is anyone who fucks up that much would be fired. Who gets job doesn't matter. What analysts say doesn't matter in this. They're guessing for the most part and nintendo has the best idea out of anyone how in demand their product is and they know exactly how much product they can purchase. |
Yes, the replacement matters becuase you can't expect 100% forecast accuracy after getting rid of the guy who messed up if a being/thing with said "superpower" doesn't exist to replace him. Independent analysts have the same skills as the guys who do that job at Nintendo's, so I looked at them as an indicator of what should I expect from that guy's replacement. Nintendo has preorder numbers which means nothing because they're always better than the ones of the previous system. Even Wii U had good preorder numbers. Let's forget that you don't know what is a strawman...
Since we know what you think of the Switch, I put you in charge to add context because this is about you making illogical posts, remember?
Yeah, great way to add context by omitting that it was't a standalone post, but a reply to Mnementh (I hope I wrote that right). This is the entire post, for the lazy:
Aeolus451 said:
Yeah, man. The shortages happen.... because nintendo is so incompetent...I meant because nintendo has a hard time predicting demand.... that they haven't figured out how to not have to shortages since the NES. There's no way nintendo is using scarcity marketing to help sell their products..... even though they do timed sales, limited run products, limited special editions of products, had repeated shortages over a wide range of their products and...... turned digital DLC (no shortages because it's digital) into toy-like figurines that give you access to exclusive DLC which.... somehow had shortages all the time. gul·li·ble (gŭl′ə-bəl) adj. Easily deceived or duped. |
You called him gullible.