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setsunatenshi said:
Arminillo said:

Are you saying that news outlets shouldnt report on crime?

Or is it what you are really thinking is that you dont like the fact the people who dont support Trump can be bad people too?

do you have any idea how many crimes are committed every single day!? the fact they were caught and will face the law should be enough to turn this into a non news.

what the hell did I say to give you the impression that not liking trump = good person!? like... wtf!?

it just seems to me there's some fabricated outrage focusing on the skin color of the criminals and the victim and that's what's bringing this into the 'news'

seems like race baiting to me

I didnt read this article but the NBC News article I read has them saying quote "were heard yelling anti-white epithets at various points throughout the 30-minute video." Sometimes it isnt race-baiting its just actual reporting.



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CGI-Quality said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

In fact I have vaguely heard of that event on the news and you are correct it certainly wasn't covered enough which is lamentful. I also would like to clairfy that I'm not saying that coverage for this particular incident has been sparse, I mean it was covered on the spanish-speaking news and rightfully called a hate crime of sorts. My issue is more with a significant portion of the mainstream outlets, even with on-camera evidence, refusing to call it what it is, a hate crime. 

They won't call it a hate crime because the police themselves haven't even called it that, yet (and don't want to until there's a complete investigation). Most agree that it's a horrific, ugly crime regardless (which it is).

To others, the reason why you won't see as much backlash is partially because the four teens have been arrested. Lots of times, that's not the case.

MSNBC coveres it here (and they do talk about it being a hate crime): http://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/4-held-after-apparent-torture-in-facebook-live-video-848376899977

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hate-crime-charges-not-ruled-out-sickening-facebook-live-torture-n703456

NBC calls it hate crime as well.



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Arminillo said:
setsunatenshi said:

do you have any idea how many crimes are committed every single day!? the fact they were caught and will face the law should be enough to turn this into a non news.

what the hell did I say to give you the impression that not liking trump = good person!? like... wtf!?

it just seems to me there's some fabricated outrage focusing on the skin color of the criminals and the victim and that's what's bringing this into the 'news'

seems like race baiting to me

I didnt read this article but the NBC News article I read has them saying quote "were heard yelling anti-white epithets at various points throughout the 30-minute video." Sometimes it isnt race-baiting its just actual reporting.

so you're focusing for some reason on them allegedly yelling racist things? is that what's so newsworthy here?

to me that's like some guy raping a woman while calling her fat and somehow the outrage going to the 'fat shaming' instead of the rape itself.



Very curious by the amount of people saying this isnt a hate crime in the US. Imagine if the roles were reversed and a disabled black man was harrassed by a group of pro-trump white men. It would be plastered all over the news for weeks. Honestly though i see stuff like this and think that the US is no better to travel to than Europe right now.

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setsunatenshi said:
Arminillo said:

I didnt read this article but the NBC News article I read has them saying quote "were heard yelling anti-white epithets at various points throughout the 30-minute video." Sometimes it isnt race-baiting its just actual reporting.

so you're focusing for some reason on them allegedly yelling racist things? is that what's so newsworthy here?

to me that's like some guy raping a woman while calling her fat and somehow the outrage going to the 'fat shaming' instead of the rape itself.

Of course not; however, it's a key consideration in trying to understand a motive.  Why would a group of black adults (by law) kidnap a special needs person?  Hope of some ransom?  You can put two and two together by the "f*** white people!" ephitets being tossed around and the humiliation this white special needs person went through, like being forced to drink water out of a toilet.  That's a clear early indication that the evil acts perpetrated against this innoncent soul were motivated by hatred.  EDIT: Of course, officially labeling it as a "hate crime" won't come until police do a thorough investigation as others mentioned.  2nd EDIT: Just caught wind that these four are in fact being charged for hate crimes.

That's a really, really bad comparison.  



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coolbeans said:
setsunatenshi said:

so you're focusing for some reason on them allegedly yelling racist things? is that what's so newsworthy here?

to me that's like some guy raping a woman while calling her fat and somehow the outrage going to the 'fat shaming' instead of the rape itself.

Of course not; however, it's a key consideration in trying to understand a motive.  Why would a group of black adults (by law) kidnap a special needs person?  Hope of some ransom?  You can put two and two together by the "f*** white people!" ephitets being tossed around and the humiliation this white special needs person went through, like being forced to drink water out of a toilet.  That's a clear early indication that the evil acts perpetrated against this innoncent soul were motivated by hatred.  EDIT: Of course, officially labeling it as a "hate crime" won't come until police do a thorough investigation as others mentioned.  

That's a really, really bad comparison.  

you have made a common mistake, you have confused me by someone who cares what their 'motive' is. they were caught, they will go to trial and surely convicted for what they have done and society will judge them morally as the pieces of shit that they are. 

lets make a news story when actually here doesn't go according to the normality (ie, them not getting sentenced by the court)



AsGryffynn said:
RolStoppable said:
The Sun, huh? Isn't that yellow press?

 

Ka-pi96 said:

If yellow press means one that will sensationalise anything and everything they can get their hands on just for clicks/paper sales, then yes they most certainly are.

 

Lawlight said:
Funny thing is that the police is refusing to categorise that as a hate crime. And good luck getting the mainstream media to cover this.

Alright, here's a MSM link... https://t.co/26ENk3sNxA There, you happy now? 

Lawlight said:

A hate crime to be more precise. I expect Obama to make a statement about this soon. He's done it multiple times before.

Ahahahahahahaha... really? 

Oh Barry... 

It's funny how that bbc article refuses to say that they are black. It only 1 of them being African American. Thank you for proving my point.



setsunatenshi said:
coolbeans said:

Of course not; however, it's a key consideration in trying to understand a motive.  Why would a group of black adults (by law) kidnap a special needs person?  Hope of some ransom?  You can put two and two together by the "f*** white people!" ephitets being tossed around and the humiliation this white special needs person went through, like being forced to drink water out of a toilet.  That's a clear early indication that the evil acts perpetrated against this innoncent soul were motivated by hatred.  EDIT: Of course, officially labeling it as a "hate crime" won't come until police do a thorough investigation as others mentioned.  

That's a really, really bad comparison.  

you have made a common mistake, you have confused me by someone who cares what their 'motive' is. they were caught, they will go to trial and surely convicted for what they have done and society will judge them morally as the pieces of shit that they are. 

lets make a news story when actually here doesn't go according to the normality (ie, them not getting sentenced by the court)

Whether you care or not, hate crimes are a dimension of our court system.  It therefore follows that reports would, you know, report on all of the necessary dimensions of these heinious crimes, racial and anti-Trump ephithets included.

Or let's make a news story about this?  You're acting as though these crimes exist in a vacuum, when that's really not the case.



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RolStoppable said:
Lawlight said:

Are you saying that this didn't happen?

Nope, just that I am cautious with certain sources, because they might greatly exaggerate the details or jump the gun on a story that could bring in lots of clicks.

It's okay, the BBC covered it too. ;)



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Puppyroach said:
Machiavellian said:
I believe this is not going viral because White people are not outraged enough. There are thousands of hate crimes committed all the time. Most just stay local to the area where they happen and you get the odd posting on social sites.

Why should specifically white people be outraged? That's just weird.

Think about some of the other incidents that involve other races.  Or I will just say Black.  When such crimes happen and hit the social sites, it causes rage which causes the local incident to hit viral levels and next thing you know its all over the news.  You get uprising, protest, people traveling to cities to protest and interviews all over the place.  Even in this thread there isn't any outrage, its more clinical. 

In other words, does this incident get you involved or will it be logged in your memory and you move on with your life.  The difference is  its still another crime within thousands of other crimes that does not move you to do anything more then reflect.  The issues that goes viral, get people moving, forming groups and protest and there is nothing the bigger media loves then those type of events because they can go over the incidents countless times looking to gain more viewership, web hits etc.