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Forums - Sales Discussion - Prediction: PS4 up YOY big time in 2017

 

What you think

Agreed, big time year 211 81.47%
 
Nah PS4 sell bad 34 13.13%
 
Scorpio gonna kill PS4 14 5.41%
 
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Oneeee-Chan!!! on 05 January 2017
JWeinCom said:
bluedawgs said:

Why do you mention a peripheral (VR) as a reason PS4 should have done better? it just released in October, it just began its lifecycle. If its gonna sell any consoles it will do it this year or next year lol

Kinect released in early november and pushed XBox 360 sales up by 33% that year.  If it was going to be a major seller, we should have seen some effect this year.  

Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

Your logic mean XB1 down YoY in 2017 . 


No, not really.  We know less about the Scorpio and how it will perform or be marketed.  Depending on how the Scorpio is, it may be a better upgrade choice for the expanding 4K market.  There is the potential for Hololens in 2017.  Also, the XBox One install base is about half the PS4's, which means more potential customers.

Most importantly though, XBox doesn't have to sell nearly as much to be up YOY.  It will only have to sell about 10 million or so to accomplish that, and Sony will have to nearly double it.  Microsoft just has to eat away a bit at Sony's marketshare, while Sony really has to expand their market.  

All that being said, I think that XBox will be down YOY, but it has more of a chance to be up.

So you admited XB1 down YoY.  

And  I'm not interested in  yourquibbling and word play jokes . 



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bluedawgs on 05 January 2017
Mummelmann said:

I don't think it will, if lower price, Slim and Pro and the likes of MGS and Uncharted and Final Fantasy didn't help it beat 2015 by a significant margin, there's no secret sauce waiting in 2017 that will drive a similar increase.
It seems that my insistence that a 20 million selling calendar year for the PS4 will be quite difficult to achieve after all, and I still hold to it not beating the PS1 in lifetime sales.

I think the PS4 will be either more or less flat, or even slightly down yoy in 2017, from where I'm sitting, I can't see any major reasons to think it will grow. Besides; the yoy increase for 2016 is easily well within the margin of error, meaning that it can possibly even be down yoy.

 

Edit; wow, my year end hardware predictions were pretty good for 2016!

i mean it sold 100k more its up year on year i dont know what to tell you, and "secret sauce" for 2017 is the software such as rdr2 and destiny 2 i listed and a price cut



bluedawgs on 05 January 2017
JWeinCom said:
bluedawgs said:

Why do you mention a peripheral (VR) as a reason PS4 should have done better? it just released in October, it just began its lifecycle. If its gonna sell any consoles it will do it this year or next year lol

Kinect released in early november and pushed XBox 360 sales up by 33% that year.  If it was going to be a major seller, we should have seen some effect this year.  


 

 

 

dude psvr is supply constrained currently, it sells for at the very least $400, 500 or 600 if you dont have the camera and if you want the move contollers (i paid 630 bucks for my psvr bundle) and it has only sold around 700k to a million i'd guess, so i really don't think kinect is the same as psvr at all



JRPGfan on 05 January 2017
Egelo said:
lol you all sleeping on PS4s biggest hardware mover to come.

GT. 1st of the gen, Europe and other will go gaga for Gt puffs.

Yeah GT is going to move units..... yep 2017 will be bigger than 2016.



bluedawgs on 05 January 2017

Yeah I should have put Gran Turismo in the thread, i could edit it but no point now. Anyway Gran Turismo is definitely gonna sell a lot of consoles in europe no doubt



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aLkaLiNE on 05 January 2017

Up YOY with ~ a mid gen upgrade and a slim revision, with a price cut.

Amidst increasingly stiff competition from Microsoft (a factor no one has mentioned that I've read) and a holiday of poorly launched/recieved games (looking at you Titanfall, Call of Duty)

PlayStation did have a lot of things going for it but it also had a lot of things working against it and it still managed to pull off YoY growth. We know that in 2017 Sonys biggest new IP Horizon will launch, we know the competition will be much less fierce for at least the first 9 months this year (I don't see any reason to buy an Xbox, more so now than before with Scorpio looming and a lack of exclusive software) and there will be exclusive after exclusive padding out the year. Your analysis makes sense OP, 20 million seems optimistic but it should get close.



Pyro as Bill on 05 January 2017

The days when GT could sell 10-15m every 2 years are long gone. It's been on the decline since GT3.

Is the 3m VGChartz figure for GT6 accurate?



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

bluedawgs on 05 January 2017
Pyro as Bill said:
The days when GT could sell 10-15m every 2 years are long gone. It's been on the decline since GT3.

Is the 3m VGChartz figure for GT6 accurate?

No it is not accurate, GT6 sold over 5 million as of last year

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/products/

 

Also i'm puzzled as to why you would make such a statement such as "the days when GT could sell 10-15m every 2 years are long gone" when GT5, which released in 2010, sold 11,950,000 as of last year, which means its probably over 12 million buy now. Unless you want to ignore GT6 releasing on the PS3 a month after PS4 broke records at launch its pretty obvious Gran Turismo definitely can still sell over 10 million, and PS4 is stronger than the PS3 could ever dream of and GT Sport is the first lick of Gran Turismo to hit the PS4 so expect big sales my man



KingofTrolls on 05 January 2017
Pyro as Bill said:
The days when GT could sell 10-15m every 2 years are long gone. It's been on the decline since GT3.

Is the 3m VGChartz figure for GT6 accurate?

Vgchartz still has PS4 under 50 mil and U4 at 5.4



aLkaLiNE on 05 January 2017
Pyro as Bill said:
The days when GT could sell 10-15m every 2 years are long gone. It's been on the decline since GT3.

Is the 3m VGChartz figure for GT6 accurate?

GT6 has sold >5 million. GT5 > 10 million.

 

GT6 came out AFTER THE PS4 but only launched on the PS3. Take it for what you will but it pulled 5 million without bundles (well... There was one in Brazil) on a last gen system while people had begun migrating to next gen. Your post is premature.