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Barkley said:
cpg716 said:

Games will run at 4K(native or other technique) with longer draw distance, suprerior textures, shadowing, lighting, better FPS on Scorpio.

Its not just about "resolution bump". Games will LOOK better on the Scorpio vs Xbox One and PS4 Pro.   If that  and a better console VR experience matters to someone beyond "exclusives" then the Scorpio would be the better choice. 

You're going to be dissapointed... Microsoft will prioritize Native 4k. The difference between Pro and Scoprio will essentially come down to 1800p vs Native 4k, or in more demanding titles 1400p vs 1800p imo, and a more consistent frame rate on Scorpio.

6 TFlops isn't enough for native 4k gaming and graphical enhancements as well.

 

and as for this "It works JUST LIKE GAMES ON PC." I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

Considering the rest of the post was explaiing the statement you didn't understand.. I don't know how to answer you.



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PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

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cpg716 said:

Considering the rest of the post was explaiing the statement you didn't understand.. I don't know how to answer you.

Then if you are stating that games will run on Scorpio the same as they run on PC then you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I Didn't want to jump to the conclusion that was what you were saying however.



Unless it can match the price and the games library, the Scorpio will largely sell to existing XB fans which will lead to a initial spike and then a slow decline. The only chance MS have of taking anything from the Scorpio is to change the narrative to it being a 'new generation' and not a 'mid generation update'. The problem with that is MS will have to manage the PR carefully because people will expect Scorpio only titles and that isn't what was promised and one of the main reasons people are happy buying the Slim and not waiting for the Scorpio. I'm already seeing 'BC' being pushed so it's not out of the question that's the route MS will take.



 

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Barkley said:
cpg716 said:

Considering the rest of the post was explaiing the statement you didn't understand.. I don't know how to answer you.

Then if you are stating that games will run on Scorpio the same as they run on PC then you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I Didn't want to jump to the conclusion that was what you were saying however

Again. The post was explaining how it works on PC when it comes to more power..   I still dont get why you are confused. 

Hence the example of a games running 1080p on X1 and then 4k on Scorpio. 



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

I'm expecting "The most powerful console EVER" to own the PS4 Pro in every category. Because if it doesn't....I will sue.



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those specs differences aren't really enough to change anything about the actual position of Sony and MS in the gaming market.

But I do hope this is a new start for MS, and that with this new console focused on being a powerful console instead of a kinect machine with "games as a service", they 'll go back to making great games and great new franchises, and bring more third party games and exclusives.

You know, what they were doing for 10 years until Don mattrick screwed things up.



cpg716 said:
Barkley said:

Then if you are stating that games will run on Scorpio the same as they run on PC then you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I Didn't want to jump to the conclusion that was what you were saying however

Again. The post was explaining how it works on PC when it comes to more power..   I still dont get why you are confused. 

Hence the example of a games running 1080p on X1 and then 4k on Scorpio. 

Right I understand what you mean now, I just got confused with how you said it, because I'm not sure who's arguing that it won't get graphical increases. Though I do think the majority of the power will just be utilized for native 4k. Microsofts really going to push for that because it's a marketing tool.



Rafie said:
Azzanation said:

Same reason how you say it wont run it better.

More proof says it will than it wont. Look at the number of 3rd party games out preforming the PS3 versions.

Anyone can make a powerful console, making it balanced and easy to develope for is another story. Techniquly the PS3 was more powerful than the 360, however reality is it wasnt.

Halo 4 looked better than most 1st party ghames on PS3 aside from acouple. So that point is not a valid one.

Forza 4 also looked better than GT5 go watch a compar vid.

I never said that it wouldn't run better. What I said how do you figure that it would. There is no proof that you can provide to say that 1st party games from PS3 would run better on 360. Virtually no proof at all.

I already gave you the reason why multiplats performed bettter on 360 than PS3. They were developed on the 360, and then ported to PS3.

Halo 4 was a beautiful game. It's subjective to say it looked better than most 1st party games on PS3. Although I agree to a degree. What about most 1st party games on PS3? I don't want to start naming games and it turns into a list war. I'm not interested in that. Also we're off topic and I don't wanna be warned. So yes the point is still valid.

Forza 4 looked marginally better in some aspects than GT5. Still, I do agree about Forza 4 looking better.

Well isnt that proof? Both Racing sims, both 1st party games pushing there systems to the limits and you agree in saying FM4 looks better.

Give or take both systems are very similar however Xbox can be pushed more with being alot more balanced and easier to develope for and had less bottlenecks.

Like i said before making a system with power with less bottlenecks is a challenge in itself. PS3 was all grunt no control. 360 had both. Cell had overheating problems hence why it was delayed when used to its fullest by devs. (Think of it as a Car with more Traction vs a Car with more Horsepower, which will run the track better? Of course the Car with more Traction) This is why i say the 360 was a more powerful system, because it was more powerful all round.

Ryse was the best looking game for 2 years on release when launched on XB1, that doesnt mean XB1 was more powerful than PS4, thats under the dev and what they wanted to achieve. Sony games always tend to push visuals while Xbox tend to be the other way around, abit like Nintendo who dont focus on visuals yet can make beauitful looking games when they want to eg. Metriod Prime (GC).

REDZONE said:
Azzanation said:

How can you compare 1st party games? Different focuses in game design. I can bet you if PS exclusives crossed over to 360 it would run them better. Sony made a powerful system with so many bottlenecks it turned out worse.

If majority of 3rd party games ran better on the 360 than most likely it would run there 1st party games too. So yes 360 was a much better well balanced system than the PS3 and it was outperforming it on more occasions. Thats a fact not a opinion.

Hahaha.I've seen a lot of bs posted on this site but this tops it.Did you not see me say it was hard to program for.Let me break it down.

1.Developers were lazy to even try to give the PS3 proper ports,instead gave  half as ports(beacause it wasn't market leader)

2.So why didn't MS first party games looked better than they PS3 counterparts,since they were the ones who took them to their full potential.

 

3.Later on in the gen when games started to use the PS3 as the lead platform they looked better than the 360.

So there's them facts for ya.

Lazy is an excuse. I already stated above comparing 2 similar games both 1st party games and both pushing there hardware to the limits.

Go do some comparing yourself. End of day is many games run better on 360 hardware and even 1st party games in there respected genres favored this.

eg. Forza 4 vs GT5

I wont be commenting anymore on this thread so good luck in trying to convince yourself. I am not turning this thread into a fanwar. 



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chapset said:
Here we go again, the console war will never die

Yeah, basically the 900p vs 1080p threads will be swapped to 1800p vs 2160p.

The people in those threads will both change there tunes, some Xbox fans that used to say "Resolution doesn't matter" will now say the opposite, and some PlayStation fans will also change there tune.

Lovely.