I don't see it. Sure last gen may be an anomaly but it took a long time before the games really started coming this gen. The first 2 years of PS4 were pretty sparse when it came not only exclusives, but good games in general. There were plenty of people who were waiting for that 'next gen' game to happen and some are saying it didn't happen until Bloodborne or even UC4. If they jump right to PS5 after the first couple of PS4 years were like this then I think people would not be pleased.

I think they made the PS4 Pro in order to stretch out this generation another couple years. I could be wrong but I think they are planning on trying to make this gen last until 2020 before PS5 and they are going to make the Pro their flagship system until then. And most gamers would be happy with that.

Pretty sure the PS4 Pro is 4.2TF, not seen any reputable sites list it was 4.12, hell half the ones I found that do say 4.12 say 4.2 later on in the same article.

Basically the difference in TFlops between PS4 Pro and Scorpio is equivelent to XB1 and PS4.

XB1 1.31TFlops - PS4 1.84TFlops  (40.4% more powerful)

PS4 Pro 4.2TFlops - Scorpio 6TFlops (42.8% more powerful)

But I don't think you would like to use the same wording ("owns") in relation to XB1/PS4...

I never said that it wouldn't run better. What I said how do you figure that it would. There is no proof that you can provide to say that 1st party games from PS3 would run better on 360. Virtually no proof at all.

I already gave you the reason why multiplats performed bettter on 360 than PS3. They were developed on the 360, and then ported to PS3.

Halo 4 was a beautiful game. It's subjective to say it looked better than most 1st party games on PS3. Although I agree to a degree. What about most 1st party games on PS3? I don't want to start naming games and it turns into a list war. I'm not interested in that. Also we're off topic and I don't wanna be warned. So yes the point is still valid.

Forza 4 looked marginally better in some aspects than GT5. Still, I do agree about Forza 4 looking better.

Hahaha.I've seen a lot of bs posted on this site but this tops it.Did you not see me say it was hard to program for.Let me break it down.

1.Developers were lazy to even try to give the PS3 proper ports,instead gave  half as ports(beacause it wasn't market leader)

2.So why didn't MS first party games looked better than they PS3 counterparts,since they were the ones who took them to their full potential.

3.Later on in the gen when games started to use the PS3 as the lead platform they looked better than the 360.

So there's them facts for ya.

Um.  They have been VERY clear about it. VR will only be supported on the Scorpio.  Which will be superior then PS VR.

Otherwise. It works JUST LIKE GAMES ON PC. Why is this so difficult for people to understand when it has been done for decades now.

Games will run at 720p/900p/1080p with shorter draw distance and inferior textures, shadowing, lighting, lower FPS on Xbox One

Games will run at 4K(native or other technique) with longer draw distance, suprerior textures, shadowing, lighting, better FPS on Scorpio.

Its not just about "resolution bump". Games will LOOK better on the Scorpio vs Xbox One and PS4 Pro.   If that  and a better console VR experience matters to someone beyond "exclusives" then the Scorpio would be the better choice. 

It matters when you have quantity/quality games on your console.

And lately Xbox One seems to need both.

Yes it will, there is a reason they are releasing the console one year after. It is expected from MS or Sony if they release a console after the competition. Nintendo is the only one that don't play by that rule.

You're going to be dissapointed... Microsoft will prioritize Native 4k. The difference between Pro and Scoprio will essentially come down to 1800p vs Native 4k, or in more demanding titles 1400p vs 1800p imo, and a more consistent frame rate on Scorpio.

6 TFlops isn't enough for native 4k gaming and graphical enhancements as well.

and as for this "It works JUST LIKE GAMES ON PC." I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

Teraflops is not everything, ram and CPU will add a lot is the console has more than PS4P. I would like to see games run at 60fps especially if they were not made specifically for Scorpio. I hope they make more games like Halo 5 and sacrifice graphical details to ensure a steady 60fps on Xbox One and get a more graphical push for those who bought a Scorpio but also get the 60fps.

Explain to me how PS releasing maybe 4 or 5 more exlusives dramatically makes a difference?

I always find this to be a false narative. I own both consoles. There is MORE to play on them then I can handle. 

They share 95% of the SAME EXACT GAMES. But yet somehow 4 or 5 more "exclusives" (I'm not talking indie) a year makes some HUGE difference between their catalogs.

Just to give you an EXAMPLE..  Top 100 Video Games for 2016..  Microsoft had 3 Exclusives, (Halo, Forza, and Gears 4).   PS4 had 5 (Last Of Us, Uncharted, and No Mans Sky, Ratched & Clank, and The Show)

So.. The PS4 had 2 more exlcusives that sold well in 2016.. compared to the X1..     That really is a big difference?