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DirtyP2002 on 03 January 2017
JRPGfan said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Do you think there will be a hardware aspect in which the Scorpio won't significantly outperform the PS4 Pro?

The price.

PS4pro will be 349$, when the Xbox Scorpio is 449$ or 499$.

The question is simply just a matter of, if people are willing to pay 100$-150$ more to get a scorpio?

I think Sony plan is to fight them with exclusives. ei. Games,games,games.... and cheaper price.

So your answer is: Yes.



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Netyaroze on 03 January 2017
DirtyP2002 said:
setsunatenshi said:
by the time it's coming out we'll be speculating about PS5 and it's release

doubt it.

 

What kind of console could Sony build that really feels like a generation beyond these specs?

 

 

Realistically the next jump would happen with 10nm GPUs and 15 Tflop I dont see a PS5 coming before 2020.



setsunatenshi on 03 January 2017
bunchanumbers said:

Sony won't be mentioning the words PS5 until at least 2019. Otherwise it will look like a bait and switch for PS4 Pro when PS5 is around the corner. It would be a turn off to people who went for the Pro.

I think MS will do the same with Scorpio. It won't matter if Scorpio destroys it hardware wise since both are still tied to the base models.

As someone who bought both a Ps4 and a pro on release day, I'd be quite happy with a late 2018/ mid 2019 PS5 release :)

I do agree it can be problematic to have the Scorpio tied to the Xbox 1 in terms of parity for the Xbox gamers, especially with the Scorpio releasing so late in this lifecycle



Metroid33slayer on 03 January 2017
aLkaLiNE said:

Who the fuck cares? The ps4 and the ps4 pro have been owning all forms of Xbox one in every aspect of hardware for year(s) now and that was never a major discussion point nor did Sony ever try to market or brag about that. I'm hoping Microsoft plans to sell Scorpio off the back of actual exclusives first and foremost but all signs are pointing toward them trying to tout the power advantage because they seemingly don't have much else to talk about.

Butthurt?

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Firefoxie on 03 January 2017

What I'm curious about is the price. The Scopio is going to be pretty powerful and I betting the price tag is going to be somewhere inbewteen $499-$599. I think when it comes to hardware The Scopio is going to win that no contest, but will it put a dent in the competition....I highly doubt it, but you never know though. Time will tell I guess.



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walsufnir on 03 January 2017
DirtyP2002 said:
aLkaLiNE said:

Who the fuck cares? The ps4 and the ps4 pro have been owning all forms of Xbox one in every aspect of hardware for year(s) now and that was never a major discussion point nor did Sony ever try to market or brag about that. I'm hoping Microsoft plans to sell Scorpio off the back of actual exclusives first and foremost but all signs are pointing toward them trying to tout the power advantage because they seemingly don't have much else to talk about.

not sure if serious...

 

http://bfy.tw/9FlD

 

For every time the specs from both systems were posted on here and on Neogaf a penny...



Jpcc86 on 03 January 2017

It wont in the one category that matters tho: hardware sales.



bunchanumbers on 03 January 2017
setsunatenshi said:
bunchanumbers said:

Sony won't be mentioning the words PS5 until at least 2019. Otherwise it will look like a bait and switch for PS4 Pro when PS5 is around the corner. It would be a turn off to people who went for the Pro.

I think MS will do the same with Scorpio. It won't matter if Scorpio destroys it hardware wise since both are still tied to the base models.

As someone who bought both a Ps4 and a pro on release day, I'd be quite happy with a late 2018/ mid 2019 PS5 release :)

I do agree it can be problematic to have the Scorpio tied to the Xbox 1 in terms of parity for the Xbox gamers, especially with the Scorpio releasing so late in this lifecycle

Wouldn't a 5 year console cycle be the shortest for PlayStation ever? I don't think their fan base would be happy about it.



aLkaLiNE on 03 January 2017
DirtyP2002 said:
aLkaLiNE said:

Who the fuck cares? The ps4 and the ps4 pro have been owning all forms of Xbox one in every aspect of hardware for year(s) now and that was never a major discussion point nor did Sony ever try to market or brag about that. I'm hoping Microsoft plans to sell Scorpio off the back of actual exclusives first and foremost but all signs are pointing toward them trying to tout the power advantage because they seemingly don't have much else to talk about.

not sure if serious...

 

http://bfy.tw/9FlD

 

So what do user generated slides from google images prove to me exactly? Do you ever remember a period of time where the gaming discussion was centered around ps4 outclassing Xbox in power? Because I actually remember the inverse, a stretch of months where Phil Spencer and his team tried getting everyone to believe that the cloud would allow Xbox owners to access like a 700% increase in power. I also remember ESRam being secret sauce. I don't remember Sony marketing the power difference. I don't remember secret sauce for Ps4. I don't remember a 'drawing board'. 



setsunatenshi on 03 January 2017
bunchanumbers said:
setsunatenshi said:

As someone who bought both a Ps4 and a pro on release day, I'd be quite happy with a late 2018/ mid 2019 PS5 release :)

I do agree it can be problematic to have the Scorpio tied to the Xbox 1 in terms of parity for the Xbox gamers, especially with the Scorpio releasing so late in this lifecycle

Wouldn't a 5 year console cycle be the shortest for PlayStation ever? I don't think their fan base would be happy about it.

PS1 release date 1995 in the west, PS2 release date 2000, PS3 release date 2006

 

so actually if you exclude the PS3 to PS4 time difference that includes one gigantic world economic crash in the middle, actually 5 years is pretty normal release cycle for playstation consoles