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Snoopy said:
Radek said:

Each game better really be native 4K or Microsoft is just lying again.

Cloud power, DX 12, 900p looks the same as 1080p yeah...

But all those things are true. They have proven it.

If that's the case, shouldn't people be hoping for a weaker Scorpio? Why waste money on 4k when 1800p is the same?



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I'm expecting a spec breakdown of specs, Forza 7 game play and maybe a name and release date..



Radek said:
Vasto said:
Nice scarf

Each game better really be native 4K or Microsoft is just lying again.

Cloud power, DX 12, 900p looks the same as 1080p yeah...

The only thing MS has said regarding 4K is that their own games will be native 4K.



Project Scorpio is going to be very powerful.

Zen and Vega!




This should shut all that stupid shit Xbox fans have heard since 2013. Digital Foundry probably won't even do multiplat breakdowns anymore 😂



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Vasto said:

Project Scorpio is going to be very powerful.

Zen and Vega!


I think Thuway has changed his aligance...

I could belive a 6 core Rysen variant at lower clock could be feaseble. And we have seen they showing great performance with high end GPUs.

However a 8 core Ryzen would be too big (at 14nm it has as much transistors as the XOne SOC and 60% of its area) and that is the number MS gave last year.

I don´t know how fast could AMD make a smaller Ryzen core specific for consoles and notebooks.



shikamaru317 said:

It will either be $400 with some Puma/Puma+ CPU cores (which are a small step up from Jaguar) or it will be $450-500 with some CPU cores from the upcoming Ryzen-based ultra-mobile APU's, paired with 12 GB of GDDR5 at 320 GB/s and a 6 tflop GPU (either the soon to be released RX 580 which is 6.1 tflops, or a cut-down Vega GPU that produces 6 tflop).

The CPU will be upgraded even if it has Jaguar. The Whitepaper on Scorpio says the L2 cache was quadrupled over the Xbox One, which means 16MB total rather than a paltry 4MB. That is a boost to the CPU just there, so one must assume other aspects got reworked also.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-the-race-to-4k-how-scorpio-targets-ultra-hd-gaming

Vasto said:

Project Scorpio is going to be very powerful.

Zen and Vega!

 

Dear lord. That tweet is terrible.
But the thing that sets it apart is his trump-like rhetoric of "Believe it, it's guarenteed." And that bullshit I can't subscribe to unless he provides this thing called "evidence".

Scorpio being a "true" 4k 60fps machine when the PC struggles to achieve it with SUPERIOR hardware, just ain't happening, not with full Ultra settings on all AAA games.

LudicrousSpeed said:


and just a Jaguar CPU, or whatever the step up from that one is, basically a Jaguar at a higher speed, I forget the name of it, for $400.

Puma. It's not just "Jaguar at a higher speed" though. But it is an evolutionary update to the Cat core found in Jaguar.

Dark_Feanor said:

I could belive a 6 core Rysen variant at lower clock could be feaseble. And we have seen they showing great performance with high end GPUs.

However a 8 core Ryzen would be too big (at 14nm it has as much transistors as the XOne SOC and 60% of its area) and that is the number MS gave last year.

 

It's been confirmed multiple times the console is using 8-cores.
I agree Ryzen is unlikely, digital foundry seems to agree with me on that as well.



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TheSting said:
This should shut all that stupid shit Xbox fans have heard since 2013. Digital Foundry probably won't even do multiplat breakdowns anymore 😂

Or if they keep doing them, I think they'll be posted here way less often lol.

I'm sticking to the Jaguar/Puma CPU prediction. If they go higher than that though, I wonder what it will cost?