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Safiir on 05 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Off the top of my head, a lot of Japanese bought a Wii for Monster Hunter Tri.

Go one step further, curl. Monster Hunter exclusivity for the 3DS essentially forced Sony out of the handheld market altogether.

That doesn't make any sense. Monster Hunter is primarily a japanese franchise and Japan is vita's best market. The reason vita is performing poorly is the western markets and Monster Hunter exclusivity wouldn't make any difference.



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Safiir on 05 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
Safiir said:

That doesn't make any sense. Monster Hunter is primarily a japanese franchise and Japan is vita's best market. The reason vita is performing poorly is the western markets and Monster Hunter exclusivity wouldn't make any difference.

If Vita was successful in Japan, there would at least be a glimmer of hope that there might be another Sony handheld. The lack of Monster Hunter stifled its growth tremendously.

It was a heavy hit, yes. I do not believe it would've made a significant difference in the end though. The dedicated handheld market has massively shrunk in the recent years. And the 3ds simply had a much, much, much more appealing games on it. And as it stands there are very few people that would've bought a vita as a second console along with their 3ds.



Pemalite on 05 January 2017
Safiir said:

It was a heavy hit, yes. I do not believe it would've made a significant difference in the end though. The dedicated handheld market has massively shrunk in the recent years. And the 3ds simply had a much, much, much more appealing games on it. And as it stands there are very few people that would've bought a vita as a second console along with their 3ds.

Even the amount of units the 3DS has shifted has shrunk.
3DS: 62 Million vs DS 154 Million.

Gameboy Advance did 81.5 million, Gameboy 118  million.

So it's the worst selling mainstream Handheld for Nintendo to date.

The market has shrunk and shifted... I think the main reason Nintendo was able to retain success in the handheld market is due to cost and the fact they target their handhelds to younger audiences... But it can't be denied that Mobile has eaten into that, some kids would prefer a tablet over a Nintendo Handheld these days.



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Jranation on 05 January 2017

Nvm



Pocky Lover Boy! 

DonFerrari on 05 January 2017

 

fleischr said:
DonFerrari said:

Totally agree

Couldn't help but notice that you re-agreed with yourself lol

I can't help agreeing with myself when I'm so right =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Entropio on 05 January 2017
Pemalite said:
Safiir said:

It was a heavy hit, yes. I do not believe it would've made a significant difference in the end though. The dedicated handheld market has massively shrunk in the recent years. And the 3ds simply had a much, much, much more appealing games on it. And as it stands there are very few people that would've bought a vita as a second console along with their 3ds.

Even the amount of units the 3DS has shifted has shrunk.
3DS: 62 Million vs DS 154 Million.

Gameboy Advance did 81.5 million, Gameboy 118  million.

So it's the worst selling mainstream Handheld for Nintendo to date.

The market has shrunk and shifted... I think the main reason Nintendo was able to retain success in the handheld market is due to cost and the fact they target their handhelds to younger audiences... But it can't be denied that Mobile has eaten into that, some kids would prefer a tablet over a Nintendo Handheld these days.

Compared it to GB is unfair..  It had a very long run. 



DonFerrari on 05 January 2017
Entropio said:
Pemalite said:

Even the amount of units the 3DS has shifted has shrunk.
3DS: 62 Million vs DS 154 Million.

Gameboy Advance did 81.5 million, Gameboy 118  million.

So it's the worst selling mainstream Handheld for Nintendo to date.

The market has shrunk and shifted... I think the main reason Nintendo was able to retain success in the handheld market is due to cost and the fact they target their handhelds to younger audiences... But it can't be denied that Mobile has eaten into that, some kids would prefer a tablet over a Nintendo Handheld these days.

Compared it to GB is unfair..  It had a very long run. 

Nothing unfair... PS3 were current gen longer than PS2 and yet sold almost 60% of the later. Duration of gen isn't the only important aspect, even more when peak is during 2nd or 3rd full year on the market.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Pemalite on 05 January 2017
Entropio said:

Compared it to GB is unfair..  It had a very long run. 

Size or rather... Length isn't everything. ;)

Besides. If you removed the Gameboy, the trend is still clear. Dedicated mobile gaming is still in decline. Nintendo's devices have been in decline, Sony's devices have been in Decline whilst Phones and Tablets have exploded.



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potato_hamster on 05 January 2017
Entropio said:
Pemalite said:

Even the amount of units the 3DS has shifted has shrunk.
3DS: 62 Million vs DS 154 Million.

Gameboy Advance did 81.5 million, Gameboy 118  million.

So it's the worst selling mainstream Handheld for Nintendo to date.

The market has shrunk and shifted... I think the main reason Nintendo was able to retain success in the handheld market is due to cost and the fact they target their handhelds to younger audiences... But it can't be denied that Mobile has eaten into that, some kids would prefer a tablet over a Nintendo Handheld these days.

Compared it to GB is unfair..  It had a very long run. 

.... but most of those sales came from the last third of the gameboy's life. It sold somewhere around 60 million of that 118 million after FY97, 10 years after the gameboy came on the market. Pokemon is a hell of a system seller.




etking on 05 January 2017

It does not matter how many GFLOPS the GPU can handle, the ARM CPU is simply too slow and provides a hughe bottleneck.