So no deterioration in the middle east then.

Cyber war with more nuke and accessible from some keyboard in Russia? That's heavy doc.

I don't know if this was the right move or not.  I have no idea what the protocol for something like this would be.  However, if the allegations are true then, yeah, there does need to be some blow-back.  Democrat, Republican, Cat-in-box Party, I don't give a damn.  If another country is using illegal means to influence an election in their favor then the government of the country where the election is taking place should do something to stop it from happening again.  I can't believe anyone would think otherwise.  That's common sense.  This isn't an issue where people should think about their political party first, it's one where they should think about their country first.

I trust the Russians more than the Americans.

If another country exposes corruption, then I honestly don't give a fuck about the semantics about what laws are broken. 

"They illegally hacked our servers!"

"... aaaaand exposed extreme corruption in the process. Maybe they need a medal, not a reprimand."

Russia interjecting themselves into a US election is a fairly stunning event really, is this supposed to be the new normal? They are going to cherry pick one candidate who they push based on captitulation to their demands every 4 years? It's a very dangerous precident. Not only in the US, but now they will feel they can do the same in Europe and perhaps even Asia as well. 

You want to calm the fuck down there chief? I am well aware of what the US has done to the Middle East. I am also well aware that the west has been fucking up the Middle East since well before the 1990's. As someone who is very much against outside powers screwing up the Middle East for their own bennefit without paying any attention to what the consiquences of those actions may be,  Vladimir Putin, a man who doesn't seem to bothered with even appearing like the good guy, having even more influence in the region is bad news. Not to mention places in Eastern Europe like the Ukraine. Which, in case you hadn't noticed, is a little bit smaller than it was three years ago. But don't worry, unrest in Eastern Europe has never caused trouble for anybody else before!

The other part of what I was saying, was that even if you're an American who doesn't give a shit about all of that, voting in the guy the Russians wanted seems like a dumb idea. Because, historically, they haven't always had our best interests at heart and maybe more people should have questioned WHY Russia wanted him to be President.

But yeah, fuck me.

Oh you're right. Instead of removing all of the corruption, we should just reprimand whoever exposed said corruption and stop it from ever being exposed again. 

By all means, let's forget what was shown to us and just get mad that it was shown to us at all. How dare they lift the veil on our reality to show us what's really happening. 

Actually I trust them both. I trust the russians will do whatever they think is best for them regardless of any moral codes or what would happen to the rest of the world and I trust the americans will still be...spoiled and intellectually challenged (I suppose the PC term should be?). Of course this is broad generalization and there are plenty of exceptions but if nothing else both countries have always been very consistent.

That is not semantics at all.  "The ends justifies the means" never works because it's never fair.  Who is going to decide that case-by-case interpretation of the law?  What is your criteria for when it's okay to ignore legality?  That's the whole reason why we made entrapment illegal in the United States.  

The idea of giving people medals when they break the law if they can prove someone else broke the law first would just lead to anarchy.  Would you mind if someone broke into your house because they thought you might have have something illegal there?