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Pyro as Bill said:
animegaming said:

this a joke post? cause wow I can say for sure I have quite never seen kind of post like this on any forum ever.

except for 4chan

Its ideas like this that ultimately put the final nail in the coffin for third party Wii U support.

Did the success of WiiU really rely on 3rd party support?

Nintendo's not being a dick anymore. True Nintendo fans don't need 3rd parties.

They're a 1-up. Great when you have 1 life left but useless when you have 99.

We would of had more Wii U games and most of the best selling games of the year are third party games so yeah Nintendo does need them if they want PS4 numbers.



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animegaming said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Did the success of WiiU really rely on 3rd party support?

Nintendo's not being a dick anymore. True Nintendo fans don't need 3rd parties.

They're a 1-up. Great when you have 1 life left but useless when you have 99.

We would of had more Wii U games and most of the best selling games of the year are third party games so yeah Nintendo does need them if they want PS4 numbers.

The company responsible for Pokemon Go needs who? Ubisoft?

hahahahahahahah

Nintendo =/= Sony

Nintendo shit out a cultural phenomenon with less than 15m home console sales. The idea that Nintendo needs turd parties is laughable.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Pyro as Bill said:
animegaming said:

We would of had more Wii U games and most of the best selling games of the year are third party games so yeah Nintendo does need them if they want PS4 numbers.

The company responsible for Pokemon Go needs who? Ubisoft?

hahahahahahahah

Nintendo =/= Sony

Nintendo shit out a cultural phenomenon with less than 15m home console sales. The idea that Nintendo needs turd parties is laughable.

Pokemon GO was free and could work on a device most people need and this had no impact on Wii U sales and only effected 3DS sales since there are Pokemon games on it. 

Look at the top selling games on PS4 (hell we're on a site that tracks numbers there is no excuse for this) and tell again Nintendo doesn't need third party support espically when they get more games on their console and royalites from copies sold. 



animegaming said:
Pyro as Bill said:

The company responsible for Pokemon Go needs who? Ubisoft?

hahahahahahahah

Nintendo =/= Sony

Nintendo shit out a cultural phenomenon with less than 15m home console sales. The idea that Nintendo needs turd parties is laughable.

Pokemon GO was free and could work on a device most people need and this had no impact on Wii U sales and only effected 3DS sales since there are Pokemon games on it. 

Look at the top selling games on PS4 (hell we're on a site that tracks numbers there is no excuse for this) and tell again Nintendo doesn't need third party support espically when they get more games on their console and royalites from copies sold. 

Time isn't free kiddo. Nintendo gave hours upon hours of entertainment that had some real world value (walking/weight loss, like Wii Fit). Nintendo would have been set for another 200 years if people would have paid an honest amount for the no. of entertainment hours they got from Pokemon Go.

"look at PS4 software sales"

Look at any software sales from a Nintendo system and you'll understand how little 3rd parties mean.

CoD and Minecraft would be nothing without the DS and Wii raising gaming awareness/accessibility. Everyone else is irrelevant.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Pyro as Bill said:
animegaming said:

Pokemon GO was free and could work on a device most people need and this had no impact on Wii U sales and only effected 3DS sales since there are Pokemon games on it. 

Look at the top selling games on PS4 (hell we're on a site that tracks numbers there is no excuse for this) and tell again Nintendo doesn't need third party support espically when they get more games on their console and royalites from copies sold. 

Time isn't free kiddo. Nintendo gave hours upon hours of entertainment that had some real world value (walking/weight loss, like Wii Fit). Nintendo would have been set for another 200 years if people would have paid an honest amount for the no. of entertainment hours they got from Pokemon Go.

"look at PS4 software sales"

Look at any software sales from a Nintendo system and you'll understand how little 3rd parties mean.

CoD and Minecraft would be nothing without the DS and Wii raising gaming awareness/accessibility. Everyone else is irrelevant.

Call Of Duty sold worse on Wii though and Minecraft wasn't on any Nintendo system until eariler this year and yet third party does matter since

 

third party support = more games

more games = more hardware and software sales

more hardware and software = more money for Nintendo

Hell Black Ops 3 on PS4 which is the best selling PS4 game has sold more then double then the amount of copies of the best selling game on Wii U.

I want games like Red Dead Redemption  2, South Park The Fracture But Whole, Mass Effect Androma, Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite, and Kingdom Hearts 3 on the Switch since I would be able to take them on go and even though I am not an Assassin's Creed fan outside of 2 I would gladly buy it on the Switch to support third party support on Nintendo systems and for having an brand new AAA open world game I can take on the go. You don't have to buy Assassin's Creed if you don't want to but no one is making you buy it and it being on the Switch and doing decent numbers is a good thing in the end.

 

Also if we had third party support we would basically have no game droughts which was what killed the Wii U was going months with best at just a few virtual console releases in terms of game releases.



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animegaming said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Time isn't free kiddo. Nintendo gave hours upon hours of entertainment that had some real world value (walking/weight loss, like Wii Fit). Nintendo would have been set for another 200 years if people would have paid an honest amount for the no. of entertainment hours they got from Pokemon Go.

"look at PS4 software sales"

Look at any software sales from a Nintendo system and you'll understand how little 3rd parties mean.

CoD and Minecraft would be nothing without the DS and Wii raising gaming awareness/accessibility. Everyone else is irrelevant.

Call Of Duty sold worse on Wii though and Minecraft wasn't on any Nintendo system until eariler this year and yet third party does matter since

 

third party support = more games

more games = more hardware and software sales

more hardware and software = more money for Nintendo

Hell Black Ops 3 on PS4 which is the best selling PS4 game has sold more then double then the amount of copies of the best selling game on Wii U.

I want games like Red Dead Redemption  2, South Park The Fracture But Whole, Mass Effect Androma, Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite, and Kingdom Hearts 3 on the Switch since I would be able to take them on go and even though I am not an Assassin's Creed fan outside of 2 I would gladly buy it on the Switch to support third party support on Nintendo systems and for having an brand new AAA open world game I can take on the go. You don't have to buy Assassin's Creed if you don't want to but no one is making you buy it and it being on the Switch and doing decent numbers is a good thing in the end.

 

Also if we had third party support we would basically have no game droughts which was what killed the Wii U was going months with best at just a few virtual console releases in terms of game releases.

DS and Wii got people into gaming. Minecraft, CoD, 360, PS3, Wii would have been less successful without DS.

MC, CoD, PS3, 360 would have sold less without Wii.

I'm sure those other games you mentioned are all great stuff but the majority of the people who own a real Nintendo console don't give a shit.

Normal people want Pokemon Go. They want Wii Fit and Brain Training. Marvel v Capcom's single digit million sales don't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

There's no such thing as gaming droughts or gaming backlogs when you have great games.

"RDR2, ME, Bioshock etc" You think you want those games but you don't.

I dare you to play RDR2 twice. Play it and then immediately start again from the beginning and play it again. You won't. They aren't the games that people buy consoles for, especially not Nintendo consoles (real ones not the GC/WiiU).



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Volterra_90 said:
I don't care about AC, but if AC is ported to the Switch, it's possible that more AAA third party games are coming. I thought Switch wasn't going to be powerful enough.

Even if not powerful enough any game can be ported with à good downgrade.

 

Itll be like PS4/PS3 games on Vita, like Borderlands , less détails, maybe différent shaders, smaller World and okay framerate but portable version 



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Pyro as Bill said:
animegaming said:

Call Of Duty sold worse on Wii though and Minecraft wasn't on any Nintendo system until eariler this year and yet third party does matter since

 

third party support = more games

more games = more hardware and software sales

more hardware and software = more money for Nintendo

Hell Black Ops 3 on PS4 which is the best selling PS4 game has sold more then double then the amount of copies of the best selling game on Wii U.

I want games like Red Dead Redemption  2, South Park The Fracture But Whole, Mass Effect Androma, Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite, and Kingdom Hearts 3 on the Switch since I would be able to take them on go and even though I am not an Assassin's Creed fan outside of 2 I would gladly buy it on the Switch to support third party support on Nintendo systems and for having an brand new AAA open world game I can take on the go. You don't have to buy Assassin's Creed if you don't want to but no one is making you buy it and it being on the Switch and doing decent numbers is a good thing in the end.

 

Also if we had third party support we would basically have no game droughts which was what killed the Wii U was going months with best at just a few virtual console releases in terms of game releases.

DS and Wii got people into gaming. Minecraft, CoD, 360, PS3, Wii would have been less successful without DS.

MC, CoD, PS3, 360 would have sold less without Wii.

I'm sure those other games you mentioned are all great stuff but the majority of the people who own a real Nintendo console don't give a shit.

Normal people want Pokemon Go. They want Wii Fit and Brain Training. Marvel v Capcom's single digit million sales don't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

There's no such thing as gaming droughts or gaming backlogs when you have great games.

"RDR2, ME, Bioshock etc" You think you want those games but you don't.

I dare you to play RDR2 twice. Play it and then immediately start again from the beginning and play it again. You won't. They aren't the games that people buy consoles for, especially not Nintendo consoles (real ones not the GC/WiiU).

Red Dead Redemption 1 is one of my favorite games of all time and so yes I do want it and I would like to take it on the go and look at GTAV's and Red Dead Redemption 1 sales and how they were recived critically those are system sellers even more and with the exception of maybe Pokemon they are bigger system sellers then any Nintendo game.

 

this might actually be the most insane console war argument I have ever been in and I am usually someone that is on Nintendo's side.



I guess it's a different type one, or they need to build an entire different games like Dragon Quest 11 on 3DS and Ps4.



animegaming said:

Red Dead Redemption 1 is one of my favorite games of all time and so yes I do want it and I would like to take it on the go and look at GTAV's and Red Dead Redemption 1 sales and how they were recived critically those are system sellers even more and with the exception of maybe Pokemon they are bigger system sellers then any Nintendo game.

 

this might actually be the most insane console war argument I have ever been in and I am usually someone that is on Nintendo's side.

How many times have you played through RDR's campaign?

Did you play Red Dead Revolver?

GTA is a lot like Zelda. If it was an annual release it would be dead already. GTA has multiplayer now, and it's good multiplayer which is why V is so much more successful.

"Critical acclaim" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Game_of_the_Year_awards

GoTYs are inversely proportional to sales or mega breakout hit sales are never considered GoTY.

"on Nintendo's side" - did you buy a GC or WiiU?



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!