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LurkerJ said:
What are these PS4s owners doing with their consoles? Abysmal software numbers

It's possible that they are going digital with software on certain IP, FF XV was the most downloaded game in Japan PSN history when it launched..... So maybe with PSN numbers the game could be much closer to a million already


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Kerotan said:
WC4Life said:

I believe PS4 2017 hardware sales will beat 2016.

I agree with most of your points and the game list you and Boutros posted tells the rest of the story.

I expect it to do no less than 1.6m. Could fall anywhere between 1.6-2m. But anywhere over 1.5m will satisfy me. I'm looking forward to seeing the spring baseline in 2017 and then the summer baseline during the summer. 

Baseline, it's all about the baseline. The price of PS4 hardware is now more tolerable and no doubt Sony will do pricedrop somewhere along the year to reach that sweetspot like you said. That's what consumers worldwide expected this year and it happened, next year it's the same thing and for Sony there's the agenda to fight against Switch and Scorpio. Pricedrop will happen.

Without crazy delays 2017 software lineup looks much stronger than 2016. And I'm not even counting on FF7R or DQXI to  be released in 2017. It's just games from familiar franchises releasing one after the other like clockwork, giving the PS4 hardware sales a constant bump.

PS4 Pro sales, even at 4-5k a week will add to the baseline compared to 2016. Also let's not forget PS4 had some surprisingly slow periods in 2016 so the whole year 2017 does not need to be magical.

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Pokemon legs and Mario Maker pulling in good numbers. Also great hardware for 3DS and PS4.

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Kerotan said:
Boutros said:

Personally I think the 2017 line-up for the PS4 is much stronger than it was in 2016 mostly because cross-platform (PS3-PS4) titles are finally dead. So a lot of those people holding on to their PS3s will have to upgrade in 2017. Also 2017 is starting stronger than 2016 thanks to a better 2016 than 2015.

You know it's a tricky one.  Kerotan "The great predictor of our time"  called 2016 for the ps4 multiple times.  I always maintained a big 2016 for hardware.  One that would rival the ps3's biggest year.  I predicted ~1.8m for mediacreate.  


Having modestly said all the above,  I must say I'm intrigued by 2017 vs 2016. We don't have a FFVX, P5 or Y6. We don't have a Pro launch,  slim launch and 2016 had a price cut. 


Now how could 2017 compete with that?  Let's list what it has going for it.  



1. Ps4 slim/pro selling for full year.  Better baseline early on perhaps?  

2. Ps4 pro actually in stock meeting demand.  

3. Psvr in stock and meeting demand could push more units.  

4. Ps4/pro $50 price cut next fall.  Getting really close to that sweet spot.  




Gran Turismo Sport 

Hot shots golf 



Battfront 2

New cod 

Gravity Rush 2

DQ11, KH3, FF7 (I expect 1 and maybe 2 of these) 

Gundam Vs 


KH final chapter 

KH collection 


Another big point as you've said is less ps3 ports.  


So basically many 100-300k titles with a few bigger ones.  Unannounced titles too for the end of the year.  Could be anything from builders 2 to a MH5 ps4 version announced. 


2016 vs 2017 will be an interesting battle. Do you have figures for the ps3's next year after its peak of 1.8m?

Great post. PS4 should have an awesome year in 2017. The only thing that could slow it down is the Switch. If Switch doesn't effect it to much, then I think it will even outsell this year, but if Switch does have an impact then that 1.5M could even be a bit dificult to obtain. It will definitly be  a very fun time to watch the Japanese market.

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Boutros said:

Early (Q1) 2017 PS4 games:

  • Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue – January 12
  • Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony – January 12
  • SGZH School Girl/Zombie Hunter –  January 12

  • Gravity Rush 2 – January 19
  • Valkyria Revolution – January 19
  • Birthdays the Beginning – January 19

  • Resident Evil 7: Biohazard – January 26

  • Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 - Road To Boruto – February 2

  • Nioh – February 9
  • Four Goddesses Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune – February 9

  • For Honor – February 16
  • Digimon World: Next Order International Edition – February 16

  • NieR:Automata – February 23
  • Super Robot Wars V – February 23
  • Batman: Return to Arkham – February 23
  • The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2 – February 23

  • Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon – February

  • Horizon Zero Dawn – March 2
  • Musou Stars – March 2
  • Winning Post 8 2017 – March 2

  • Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands – March 9
  • Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 Remix – March 9

  • Rewrite – March 16
  • YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World – March 16
  • Accel World VS Sword Art Online: Millennium Twilight – March 16
  • Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash – March 16

  • Deus Ex: Mankind Divided – March 23

  • Blue Reflection – March 30
  • Woah, thanks for making this list, Boutros. When you lay the games out like this, I can see the PS4 starting off 2017 better than it started off 2016. This is the kind of release schedule the PS4 needs: at least one new game each week. Obviously, not all of them will sell over 100K first week, but maintaining consumer interest is the more important part.

    I went to Osaka yesterday to buy a fax machine as those things are still widely used here for whatever reason.

    Decided to check a game center to see if there was anything kewl on sale,, stayed there for some time, when I first walked in the Mario Maker section was half full, by the time I left it was completely empty, almost everyone I got to see ended up getting the game.

    Bought Yakuza Kiwami for 2000 yen, good deal, also Knack for the hell of it, was just 100 yen.

    Boutros said:
    Oh so Famitsu is going to have 53 weeks in 2017? I mean they'll need to do it eventually XD

    Yes, this is the last week of the year for Famitsu, and 2017 will have 53 weeks since they start one week earlier.

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    Nintendo is on fire this holiday.I honestly didnt expect this level of success that Mario Maker is enjoying.I mean, I expected it to sell 500k lifetime, not pass that number in 3 weeks!!!

    Other than that, solid numbers overall, with exceptiona like FF XV.

    3DS is relly monster, in its 6. year it has around 50k more in sales than all other combined consoles on market.