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It's a very solid and fun game. Overall amazing package. The only issue I have is, the micro-transactions. It takes way too long to get an elite pack, considering Halo 5 takes about 1/3 the time to get a gold pack.



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smroadkill15 said:
It's a very solid and fun game. Overall amazing package. The only issue I have is, the micro-transactions. It takes way too long to get an elite pack, considering Halo 5 takes about 1/3 the time to get a gold pack.

Use XP or credit bounties if you play versus. Horde gets you credits in no time with XP bounties too. You get 500credits for every 5 levels and core matches give decent credits. Personally I think operations packs are a better purchase than elite packs anyway.

edit. And i don't think Halo packs are comparable since those include items you need to compete.



KiigelHeart said:
smroadkill15 said:
It's a very solid and fun game. Overall amazing package. The only issue I have is, the micro-transactions. It takes way too long to get an elite pack, considering Halo 5 takes about 1/3 the time to get a gold pack.

Use XP or credit bounties if you play versus. Horde gets you credits in no time with XP bounties too. You get 500credits for every 5 levels and core matches give decent credits. Personally I think operations packs are a better purchase than elite packs anyway.

Yeah I'll never touch another elite pack again. They are too unpredictable and the epic card could just as easily be a pink bubble gnasher and you just wasted 3500 credits on some junk.

You will be better off with Horde boosters. You get 2 customization cards and it only costs 400 credits. For a little more than the cost of an elite pack, you could get 9 horde boosters and get 18 customization cards.



Mr Puggsly said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

No there isn't. 

The season pass offers you .. three exclusive skins. All of which suck and can't be destroyed. All the maps you get in the pass? They're free for everyone, all you get is early access. So yea, there's no  value to the season pass.

And lot's of content? Not really. Did you know that every time they add new maps to the game they take away the same amount of the maps from the rotation? That means the entire point of having microtransactions(so that they can make a profit off cosmetics while still deliviring free content to the community) is ruined, because you aren't REALLY getting more free content, you're getting the same amount of maps it's just that some maps are taken out. Which means that there's no point in adding more maps, since that means the only time you can enjoy all the maps is in  private exclusively. What would be the point in that? And since the only other thing updated for free in which other content isn't deleted or taken out to make place for it is unironically microtransaction packs and optional cosmetics, it means there was no point at all to have a microtransaction system. For the people(the majority) who play Matchmaking, the content you get day one is the same amount of content you get after the free updates. 

Oh - and where's Arcade mode for the Campaign, Capture The Leader, etc. Offline horde? What's that? Oh and the funniest thing is - even without the microtransaction system the unlockables suck ass. So we get one bald baird but we get 30 color blast skins and a few shitty zombie skins? What? 

Kudos, it looks like you've done your homework to find anything negative about Gears.

Regardless, its a package with significantly more value than the typical game. It has basically everything people argue like a campaign, split screen, PvP, co-op, and it does it all very well.

Please name me the games that do everything Gears 4 does as well and/or better. I have a feeling this is gonna be a short list. This is why I'm comfortable calling Gears 4 a total package.

Actually not really. I'm a huge Gears fan and I expected this to be a great game and there's some great things about it. So don't try to go for the "oh you're just a hater" argument. You're completely trying to negate the fact that this game rips people off for 40$, and tells you that the cosmetic microtransactions are worth it when you aren't getting anything at all for them really. 

I think you're being a little unfair here. I don't lower my expectations by generation. I don't lower my expectations about content or settings or fairness from a company simply because "hey, other games are worse this gen, right?" That's such a linear anti-consumer way of thinking of things, so yes if you want to go that route Gears of War has more content than most games this generation, but when you consider than Sony and Nintendo mostly focus on single player experiences, and that most games don't have splitscreen on a priority list, it's easy to see how even with the generation being as bad as it is your argument is still faulty. 

So yea, there's not many games that have Split screen, but there's A LOT of games that have campaign, co-op and pvp. So it's really just the split screen that's stopping me from making a long list of better games. A bit unfair when you consider you don't have offline horde mode, a dedicated campaign matchmaking, or really that much content besides the core things that every game should have anyways.



KiigelHeart said:
smroadkill15 said:
It's a very solid and fun game. Overall amazing package. The only issue I have is, the micro-transactions. It takes way too long to get an elite pack, considering Halo 5 takes about 1/3 the time to get a gold pack.

Use XP or credit bounties if you play versus. Horde gets you credits in no time with XP bounties too. You get 500credits for every 5 levels and core matches give decent credits. Personally I think operations packs are a better purchase than elite packs anyway.

edit. And i don't think Halo packs are comparable since those include items you need to compete.

I'll give that a try in the new year. I haven't put too much time into horde, mostly competitive. I have some games I want to beat first before I jump into Gears again. 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Kudos, it looks like you've done your homework to find anything negative about Gears.

Regardless, its a package with significantly more value than the typical game. It has basically everything people argue like a campaign, split screen, PvP, co-op, and it does it all very well.

Please name me the games that do everything Gears 4 does as well and/or better. I have a feeling this is gonna be a short list. This is why I'm comfortable calling Gears 4 a total package.

Actually not really. I'm a huge Gears fan and I expected this to be a great game and there's some great things about it. So don't try to go for the "oh you're just a hater" argument. You're completely trying to negate the fact that this game rips people off for 40$, and tells you that the cosmetic microtransactions are worth it when you aren't getting anything at all for them really. 

I think you're being a little unfair here. I don't lower my expectations by generation. I don't lower my expectations about content or settings or fairness from a company simply because "hey, other games are worse this gen, right?" That's such a linear anti-consumer way of thinking of things, so yes if you want to go that route Gears of War has more content than most games this generation, but when you consider than Sony and Nintendo mostly focus on single player experiences, and that most games don't have splitscreen on a priority list, it's easy to see how even with the generation being as bad as it is your argument is still faulty. 

So yea, there's not many games that have Split screen, but there's A LOT of games that have campaign, co-op and pvp. So it's really just the split screen that's stopping me from making a long list of better games. A bit unfair when you consider you don't have offline horde mode, a dedicated campaign matchmaking, or really that much content besides the core things that every game should have anyways.

And again, I'll stress the point Gears 4 feels like a total package compared most games.

Other games have campaign, split screen, co-op, PvP, but its rare when I can point to a game that does it as well as Gears 4. Whether it be this or previous gens.

You can nit pick and I can still come up with numerous reaons why Gears 4 is a strong contender for GOTY.



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Mr Puggsly said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Actually not really. I'm a huge Gears fan and I expected this to be a great game and there's some great things about it. So don't try to go for the "oh you're just a hater" argument. You're completely trying to negate the fact that this game rips people off for 40$, and tells you that the cosmetic microtransactions are worth it when you aren't getting anything at all for them really. 

I think you're being a little unfair here. I don't lower my expectations by generation. I don't lower my expectations about content or settings or fairness from a company simply because "hey, other games are worse this gen, right?" That's such a linear anti-consumer way of thinking of things, so yes if you want to go that route Gears of War has more content than most games this generation, but when you consider than Sony and Nintendo mostly focus on single player experiences, and that most games don't have splitscreen on a priority list, it's easy to see how even with the generation being as bad as it is your argument is still faulty. 

So yea, there's not many games that have Split screen, but there's A LOT of games that have campaign, co-op and pvp. So it's really just the split screen that's stopping me from making a long list of better games. A bit unfair when you consider you don't have offline horde mode, a dedicated campaign matchmaking, or really that much content besides the core things that every game should have anyways.

And again, I'll stress the point Gears 4 feels like a total package compared most games.

Other games have campaign, split screen, co-op, PvP, but its rare when I can point to a game that does it as well as Gears 4. Whether it be this or previous gens.

You can nit pick and I can still come up with numerous reaons why Gears 4 is a strong contender for GOTY.

When you put it like that, I can appreciate Gears a bit more.



Mr Puggsly said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Actually not really. I'm a huge Gears fan and I expected this to be a great game and there's some great things about it. So don't try to go for the "oh you're just a hater" argument. You're completely trying to negate the fact that this game rips people off for 40$, and tells you that the cosmetic microtransactions are worth it when you aren't getting anything at all for them really. 

I think you're being a little unfair here. I don't lower my expectations by generation. I don't lower my expectations about content or settings or fairness from a company simply because "hey, other games are worse this gen, right?" That's such a linear anti-consumer way of thinking of things, so yes if you want to go that route Gears of War has more content than most games this generation, but when you consider than Sony and Nintendo mostly focus on single player experiences, and that most games don't have splitscreen on a priority list, it's easy to see how even with the generation being as bad as it is your argument is still faulty. 

So yea, there's not many games that have Split screen, but there's A LOT of games that have campaign, co-op and pvp. So it's really just the split screen that's stopping me from making a long list of better games. A bit unfair when you consider you don't have offline horde mode, a dedicated campaign matchmaking, or really that much content besides the core things that every game should have anyways.

And again, I'll stress the point Gears 4 feels like a total package compared most games.

Other games have campaign, split screen, co-op, PvP, but its rare when I can point to a game that does it as well as Gears 4. Whether it be this or previous gens.

You can nit pick and I can still come up with numerous reaons why Gears 4 is a strong contender for GOTY.

No offense bud but sure, you can argue any point with a general sense of "well at least it's not AS BAD AS xxxxxx" 

If you seriously want to drivel down an argument to "Ya but it's still better than the other mediocre products that others support" than sure, have at it with Gears 4. But lowering your expectations because it's a game in a pile of worse games doesn't really amount to much other than less crappy crap. What's the point about having a conversation about a game if you're defense of it is just "well...it's not AS BAD". You can shut down anything with that. If I didn't like Gears of War I wouldn't care so much about Gears of War 4's issues. But if you enjoy the game applause to you. There is certainly some great things about it. But the game in general? A step up from Judgement, and not much more. 



Mr Puggsly isn't arguing "it's not as bad as.." though and there's not even a reason to. Overall Gears4 does an amazing job with what it delivers. I'll write a review later when I have the time.



Solid game, campaign was great, horde is simply fantastic, and its runs smoothe as butter.

Would score it 92%.

Third fave gears game.

1. Gears 3 (98%)
2. Gears 1 (97%)
3. Gears 4 (92%)
4. Gears 2 (85%)
5. Judgement (70%)