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Intrinsic on 22 December 2016

I think its all BS. And I am black.

Lets see, they expect a white male writer, to write up a story that takes place in say america, but somehow make his story focused on black gay people? How is that gonna work? Why would he even think of something like that?

If black(you can insert any other race or gender subset instead of black) people wanna see a game based on black people then they should go produce a game. Its like getting a JRPG and expect all the characters in it to look like usain bolt.

Some say its ignorant to take the kinda stance I am taking, I say its ignorant not to understand that you are asking people to do something that is alien to them just to accommodate race and gender.



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Proxy-Pie on 22 December 2016

It CAN be, but most of the time it's not.



Metallox on 22 December 2016

For the most part, no, portray and put whoever you want in your productions.



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Lawlight on 22 December 2016
Goodnightmoon said:

Well, is certainly better when there is diversity and always suspicious when there is none at all.

Lawlight said:

Was the backlash against Tomb Raider? Or Lucy? Or Alien? Terminator? Independence Day? All those Disney movies. It's time to stop blaming straight white malea for every problem in the world.

But no problem doing the same with refugees and muslims.

Have straight white males been going to other countries and committing terrorist attacks?



Jazz2K on 22 December 2016
Lawlight said:
Jazz2K said:

Blaming straight white males isn't my intention.  No good discussion would come out of this. I made an observation though. I worked for a long time selling and renting movies when I was younger and yes there always seems to be a lot of overlooking movies that don't have a white male as the lead. The thing to understand imo is that it doesn't mean no more white males or that all white males are guilty of racism. It means that more people are aware of this and want a better representation of people, not a representation of "specific" people. 

That's very anecdotal as I bet you that there were a lot of movies that had a straight male as the lead that was also overlooked.

That's very true and yes that's as anecdotal as it gets. But hey, always the same people saying there is a problem just like always the same people saying there isn't.



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Goodnightmoon on 22 December 2016
Lawlight said:
Goodnightmoon said:

But no problem doing the same with refugees and muslims.

Have straight white males been going to other countries and committing terrorist attacks?

No, but many of them have raped or sexually offended someone so I guess we should get them all out of the country. Just in case.



Lawlight on 22 December 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Lawlight said:

Have straight white males been going to other countries and committing terrorist attacks?

No but many of them have raped or sexually offended someone so I guess we should get them all out of the country. Just in case.

Just some stats from Germany for you:

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/12747322_1289604114399297_6989721281318026704_o.png?oh=9a6324dd8508afef039c495beb76ad79&oe=58F1331D

Can you see a pattern in there?



Peh on 22 December 2016

I don't really care. The author makes the story and not sjw.

I'm definitely not the one who says, that in the lord of the rings movies are no black actors.



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GhaudePhaede010 on 22 December 2016
Lawlight said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Well, is certainly better when there is diversity and always suspicious when there is none at all.

But no problem doing the same with refugees and muslims.

Have straight white males been going to other countries and committing terrorist attacks?

1) This is WAYYYYYY off topic. However, what do you call the Iraq war? Weapons of mass destruction? Lies. Revenge for 9/11 attacks? Lies (15 of 19 hijackers were Saudi). Killing innocent people and not even admitting it (claiming there were no, "official statistics" when the civilian death toll is over 100,000). Sounds like terrorism to me.



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Goodnightmoon on 22 December 2016
Lawlight said:
Goodnightmoon said:

No but many of them have raped or sexually offended someone so I guess we should get them all out of the country. Just in case.

Just some stats from Germany for you:

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/12747322_1289604114399297_6989721281318026704_o.png?oh=9a6324dd8508afef039c495beb76ad79&oe=58F1331D

Can you see a pattern in there?

Yeah I see the pattern of how even the worst scenarios represent less than a 0.5% of their respective population, but no problem with getting the other 99.5%-99.9% out. Just in case.