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Forums - Sales Discussion - Weekly VGC Hardware - 26 November 2016

iNathan said:

Those numbers are so bad and WRONG i can´t believe some users here are discussing them, like seriously?

VGChartz keeps losing credibility (Is there some left yet?) posting absolutely WRONG numbers like this and the worst part is that they KNOW THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG AND STILL POST THEM! Seriously VGC what the hell happened to you?

Here is Sony statement about BF Week:

SAN MATEO, CA, December 7, 2016 – Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) today announced that PlayStation®4 (PS4™) has cumulatively sold through more than 50 million units*1 to consumers worldwide as of December 6, 2016, having enjoyed the best ever Black Friday week*2 in the history of PlayStation®. This includes the sales of PlayStation®4 Pro (PS4™Pro), a high-end system that supports cutting-edge imaging technology, which launched last month.

Source: https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/161207b.html

VGCHARTZ LAST YEAR (2015) Ps4 Numbers (Black Friday Week):



VGCHARTZ THIS YEAR (2016) Ps4 Numbers (Black Friday Week):



KEEP IT UP VGCHARTZ, lose all the little credibility you have left keep this on jesus christ.

Lol, i was just about to make the same observation. Kinda shocking how wrong these numbers are.

I don't much care for them losing NA, if at all that happened, but sony obviously stated they had the best BF in playstation history so thier numbers should be at least better than whatever VGC had them for BF last year.



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JRPGfan said:
celador said:
Not even 3:1 in PS4's favour in Europe, when it beat X1 2:1 on BF in Xbox's best country?

Your saying XB1 nrs are too high this week for europe?

I don't think X1 sales are too high, more PS4 seems a bit low for what Sony has said, and how we know Europe generally goes.  X1 sales outside UK in Europe are pretty bad, and even in the UK  it underperformed



I actually think 25.5 million is too high for the XBO. Believe it or not, we can figure out a ballpark figure for the XBO's current worldwide sales. EA revealed that combined console sales were 55 million by the end of 2015. Sony announced that the PS4 sold through 35.9 million as of January 3, 2016. Through simple subtraction, the XBO sold about 19.1 million by the end of 2015. According to NPD, the XBO sold 11.12 million by the end of 2015, meaning the US constituted about 58.2% of the console's worldwide sales. As of the end of November, it sold 14.34 million units in the US. Divide that figure by 0.582, worldwide sales are estimated to 24.62 million.

However, this calculation hinges on the assumption that the US percentage remained the same from January to now. I think the US is currently taking up a larger share of the XBO's worldwide sales than before. According to MarketwatchFY17 Q1 (July through September) hardware revenue decreased by 26% in comparison to FY16 Q1 due to lower prices and lower volumes of consoles sold. However, the XBO was up YOY by about 99.7K units on NPD for that quarter, leading me to believe it is down YOY in the ROTW. Being up YOY in the US and down YOY in the ROTW would increase the percentage of sales taken up by the US. Let's say the US makes up 60% of the XBO's sales. 14.34 million divided by 0.6 equals to 23.9 million, which is even lower than VGC's 25.5 million estimation.



Aura7541 said:

I actually think 25.5 million is too high for the XBO. Believe it or not, we can figure out a ballpark figure for the XBO's current worldwide sales. EA revealed that combined console sales were 55 million by the end of 2015. Sony announced that the PS4 sold through 35.9 million as of January 3, 2016. Through simple subtraction, the XBO sold about 19.1 million by the end of 2015. According to NPD, the XBO sold 11.12 million by the end of 2015, meaning the US constituted about 58.2% of the console's worldwide sales. As of the end of November, it sold 14.34 million units in the US. Divide that figure by 0.582, worldwide sales are estimated to 24.62 million.

However, this calculation hinges on the assumption that the US percentage remained the same from January to now. I think the US is currently taking up a larger share of the XBO's worldwide sales than before. According to MarketwatchFY17 Q1 (July through September) hardware revenue decreased by 26% in comparison to FY16 Q1 due to lower prices and lower volumes of consoles sold. However, the XBO was up YOY by about 99.7K units on NPD for that quarter, leading me to believe it is down YOY in the ROTW. Being up YOY in the US and down YOY in the ROTW would increase the percentage of sales taken up by the US. Let's say the US makes up 60% of the XBO's sales. 14.34 million divided by 0.6 equals to 23.9 million, which is even lower than VGC's 25.5 million estimation.

Thas a pretty good analysis..... only problmwith that though is that you are basing most of that off EA's ballpark numbers. We have no idea how accurate those numbers are.

I guess its safe to say XB1 numbers or +/- 1M from what VGC has it at. Or VGC has it spot on.



jason1637 said:
PS4 is probably undertracked.

Could be for the week in question, but overall it seems to be correct, official Sony numbers put it at "over 50 million sold through" as of December 6th, that's about one million more in ten days, seems more than reasonable, even with margins counted.

OT: 360 on fire in Japan, I wonder if it's the same dude every week who goes and buys one 360 in all of Japan.



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Didn't that UBI guy on twitter say PS4 sold 2M WW black Friday week?



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Pionner said:
Didn't that UBI guy on twitter say PS4 sold 2M WW black Friday week?

http://en.yibada.com/articles/175915/20161130/sony-sold-2-million-ps4-units-last-week-claims-ubisoft.htm

"PlayStation 4 sold over two million units thanks to Black Friday discounts."



Hiku said:
iNathan said:

"having enjoyed the best ever Black Friday week*2 in the history of PlayStation®."

Source: https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/161207b.html

VGCHARTZ LAST YEAR (2015) Ps4 Numbers (Black Friday Week):



VGCHARTZ THIS YEAR (2016) Ps4 Numbers (Black Friday Week):

Hmmm, yeah the numbers for PS4 seem off here, either in 2015 or 2016.

Agree. Ps4 numbers for this week will be quietly adjusted with next sales update. This will hide PS4 sales advantage and real sales number won't be upseting as much XBox fanboys. I'm sure Crappygamer is happy.



Do you guys think 3DS can hit 70m by the end of its life?



1doesnotsimply

Yeah I agree here. The PS4 numbers for that week seem to be off considering this is the week where Sony excelled in the Black Friday sale.



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