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Ok, I get it. As much as I want a real Desktop Console from Nintendo, all I will get is outdated hardware with bad specs and cheap software. The only thing that remains from Nintendo is their creativity.

Lets face it. Nintendo wasn´t like this every generation. Most people say that Nintendo always sells outdated hardware. Not when the Nintendo 64 was ahead of the competition hardware wise. 

They are going to sell a 0,4 Teraflops (desktop) or 0,15-0,2 Tf (handheld) at 200 USS. And they are going to give us Maxwell Nvidia Architecture, introduced in february 2014. A 3 years old architecture.  It will have the same power of a modern tablet or phone. Thats not a Console, Its a tablet designed and sold like a console. Some say its close to 1 Teraflop of power.  Thats 16 bits floating point. If you consider the commonly used 32 bits floating points it´ll give you the 400-500 Gigaflops number. PS4 pro has near 10 times that power, and they say that this thing is going to run 3rd party software? come on, how many games? and how are they going to run on the go with 150 Gigaflops?

Now lets talk games. Nintendo is always creative and great with games, But I remember that Wii U games were getting out very slow and Nintendo told the press that they made a mistake calculating HD games cost. So I guess 4k or nicely looking 1080p games might be very very expensive for them. What are they going to do? games at 720p. Cheaper games and cheaper work on lighting and textures. Of course they are going to sell them to you at full price. 

Now Nintendo fan boys will tell me that that doesnt matter, the only thing that matter is games and that they dont care about better graphics, Then why aren´t they playing NES (1985) games? Would ´t they like characters like in Cartoon movies? I think they would, the point is Nintendo is not going to pay for them. They will give you cheap hardware, cheap games and you will think that you are paying only 200 USS, a great price.

Come on Nintendo , sell it to me like a new 3DS, a new hanheld console with HDMI output, don´t try to sell it to me like a new generation desktop console system. Be honest!. 

Anyway, with all the smartphones and tablets arround, will this thing sell in any other place than Japan? Maybe it will, maybe not, we´ll see. But its not a competitor for PS4 pro and next year Scorpio. Its 10 times less powerfull and I dont know how its going to last 4 or 5 years. 

Before, I was thinking, if this thing run at desktop like a PS4, with 1080p in medium quality, i´ll might buy it, it will have the 3rd party games and great nintendo games. A win win situation. Now all I see is a hanheld with nintendo games. And yes, Nintendo has great games, but how many? and mostly the same franchises.

But what about Sony for example. The last of us, Uncharted, Bloodborne, Quantic Dreams games like Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, VR and a lot more coming. Also all the 3rd parties great games, for 250 USS on PS4 and 400 on PS4 pro. XBOX gives you Forza, Gears and Halo. Also all 3d parties. And you get a 4K BR player. I don´t care about it, but hey, its a good option for 250 USS.

And Nintendo? Mostly cheap Nintendo games for a Hanheld that I can plug to the tv with cheap old hardware and graphics for 200 USS. Are the games so good that makes this the best option. Not for me. Maybe for some it is, I respect that, but for what I care,

Sorry Nintendo. You lost a Customer.

 



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Just don't buy it, get something more suitable to your HW power needs and have fun with that



Of course it is. How do you think Nintendo still makes money with a shrinking number of supporters? But don't forget. Nintendo being financially savvy means it's great for us!



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CrazyGPU said:

 

Now Nintendo fan boys will tell me that that doesnt matter, the only thing that matter is games and that they dont care about better graphics, Then why aren´t they playing NES (1985) games? Would ´t they like characters like in Cartoon movies? I think they would, the point is Nintendo is not going to pay for them. They will give you cheap hardware, cheap games and you will think that you are paying only 200 USS, a great price.

You have to take things into context, when people say power doesn't matter they mean games dont need to have the latest cutting edge tech in order to be great, not that power doesn't need to progress over the years.

Also NES Classic has sold quite well



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vivster said:

Of course it is. How do you think Nintendo still makes money with a shrinking number of supporters? But don't forget. Nintendo being financially savvy means it's great for us!

Finally, somebody who gets it. It's not about being the most powerful, it's about making money which Nintendo did until the Wii U came. And hopefully they've learned their lesson to not make overpriced tech with a slow stream of games. If they keep profitting off of their hardware and software, Nintendo and Nintendo gamers will benefit. 



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I'm glad they didn't bet the farm on a $600 dollar device



Probably for the best, go buy consoles with games you care about



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I'm wondering if Nintendo is planning to pad the profit margin as much as they think they can get away with in order to make up for the loss of unit sales (assuming there is no true 3DS successor). That's one of the drawbacks of consolidating two product lines.

Anyway, I hope people let them know if Switch is overpriced.



well, nintendo's gonna nintendo.

In a way i don't blame them anymore, this is simply what they have to do to make it. They just can't compete with sony and Ms anymore, they have to do their own thing in a different enough way for them to still be relevant even without third party support.

Only thing I really find funny though are those that still say graphics/power don't matter. I get that at the heart of it all gameplay is what counts, but really; can't we have both? I would personally killl for a zelda game that looks like Uncharted 4.

And another common thing that goes along with the above, is this ignorant remark about if power being so important we should game on PC...... the issue with that is that while people like me want more power out of a nintendo console, I don't want them to be as powerful as a $1000+ gaming rig. There is a decent middle ground in the $300-$400 range that the PS4/XB1 reside. Lastly, the weak HD twins aren't weak enough to simply make certain types of gaming experiences impossible on the hardware......

ah well, lets see how things go.



face it as the 3DS sucessor.
Imagine a handheld were you can play all the nintendo home console games?
If you dont like handhelds, i understand.
But facing as a handheld, is a much better product than a common 3DS sucessor, that would play only handheld games.