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naruball on 18 December 2016
Locknuts said:

I hope Trump launches a huge investigation into climate change and we find out the truth. We know that he is a skeptic and has brought in a lot of right wing people, so if they use all their arguments and still deem climate change a big issue, then you know that shit is a serious problem.

Fascinating. So if Trump were to launch an investigation their conclusions would be trustworthy unlike those of the other scientists. Why is that exactly?



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LurkerJ on 18 December 2016
Lafiel said:
Goodnightmoon said:

The measures I'm talking about don't include to kill all the people from a culture/race just because some of them are terrorists, in fact the mesures I'm talking bout don't include killing at all, so the comparison doesn't make much sense.

Most scientifics around the world believe on the climate chnge and most of the measures to combat it are good for the environment and we are gonna need to do something about that sooner or later anyways, why not now? 

because

How about taking away power from dangerous-ideology spreading regimes? Wouldn't that solve major problems and limit terrorism?



Lafiel on 18 December 2016
LurkerJ said:

How about taking away power from dangerous-ideology spreading regimes? Wouldn't that solve major problems and limit terrorism?

but how do you justify an increase in military spending without an enemy?



LurkerJ on 18 December 2016
Lafiel said:
LurkerJ said:

How about taking away power from dangerous-ideology spreading regimes? Wouldn't that solve major problems and limit terrorism?

but how do you justify an increase in military spending without an enemy?

That caught me off guard. Something to think about for sure. Thanks!

It would be great if you expand your own point and spare me the research



Mummelmann on 18 December 2016

Goddamn, I'm more in doubt whether Trump is real, or the culmination of human ignorance, all manifested in one body.



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Goodnightmoon on 18 December 2016
Lafiel said:
Goodnightmoon said:

The measures I'm talking about don't include to kill all the people from a culture/race just because some of them are terrorists, in fact the mesures I'm talking bout don't include killing at all, so the comparison doesn't make much sense.

Most scientifics around the world believe on the climate chnge and most of the measures to combat it are good for the environment and we are gonna need to do something about that sooner or later anyways, why not now? 

because

Love tht picture



bdbdbd on 18 December 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Lafiel said:

because

Love tht picture

Yes, it was good. There's just two problems: expanding the same logic to other fields of life, you're being called, for example, a racist and misogynist. Also, I don't think there really are that many people who disagree with creating a better environment, but lots of people who oppose people who use this as a means to ram their own ideology.



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bdbdbd on 18 December 2016
Ljink96 said:

5 Million more people voted in 2016 vs. 2012. Obama had the popular vote in 2012 and won by 5 million votes. This year it went up for Republican and Democratic votes, about 5 million more for Democrats 10 million more for republicans. He woke some people up and some people shifted. You can't say one didn't happen. 

Really? I never had guessed the votes were up. In that case, Trump may have woke up some voters. But, the percentage is still low.

Pemalite said:

Trump is not Neutral. He is a conservative, which means he is against "change" or anything that distrupts the status quo.
He is also a protectionist.

Of course he is, he's from USA. That'd be a day if USA didn't have a conservative candidate. Haha.

If he's against change, why is it change that he might be causing the primary concern of the world leaders regarding Trump? 

Ljink96 said:

Just like it doesn't matter what Trump said during his presidency but what he says today, which will also change, and change again? 

Clinton's rhetorics don't involve shaming and disgracing entire races as she's white and supports all races...which is what america should be about.

You know what I mean, WHITE PEOPLE. I tried to be sensitive. I don't think we'd see the opposite. If we did, it wouldn't be because minorites started it. If you're the underdog and you get a victory of course you're going to celebrate. But I don't think hispanics would have shamed whites as it doesn't happen already. 

Wait - it was Clinton who's rhetorics involved shaming, not Trump. That was the whole point in Clintons campaign; trying to pidgeon hole Trump and make his voters look like shit. This is why the polls were showing a win for Clinton, because the data was showing women voting for Clinton and non-white males voting for Clinton - this works only when you think there's no overlap between voters.



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Chris Hu on 18 December 2016
fatslob-:O said:
Chris Hu said:

No they are not you can survive extreme cold relvatively easily and its not that difficult to build a shelter to guard against extreme cold humans have been doing it for thousands of years.  The only problem with exteme cold is if you are stuck in it too long there is good chance you might loose some toes, fingers  or other body parts  due to frost bite.  But with extreme heat once you go into heat stroke or are dehydrated you will die pretty quickly without imeditate medical attention.  Most places that have numerous days above 40C would have less then 1/10 the population they have today without air conditioning since humans adapt a lot less to extreme heat then extreme cold.

A shelter isn't enough, especially in -40*C ... (while 40*C is far from comfortable at least homeostasis is less likely to fail you there since you have a realistic option of sweating able to cool you down whereas most people can't even sustain living in -20*C or let along fathom living in -40*C) 

You'd need some sort of reliable heating system to prevent falling into hypothermia condition ... (dying from dehydration is totally different to dying from a heat stroke) 

Even the CDC agrees with me that Americans are more likely to die from excessive exposure to cold temperatures than hot temperatures, in fact TWICE as likely! 

That's a report coming from an Agency whose full of medical professionals! 

Again people have survived in cold climates much longer then the have survived in extreme heat.  Humans being warm blooded makes them much easier to adapt to cold and very cold weather then extreme heat.  Cold blooded aminals survie and function well in hot and very hot weather but they can't function properly in cold weather and they only can survive very cold weather if they are able to hypernate.  There is more then enough clothing that can protect you from cold and extreme cloth but there is no clothing that can protect you properly from 110F or hotter weather without ac you are pretty much fucked if you are stuck in that kind of heat for to long.  Also most places where humans live never get to -40C.



SvennoJ on 18 December 2016
thranx said:
Where are the ice caps? Shouldn't our coastal areas already be flooded. The world was doomed by global warming in the 90's and shouldn't be able to survive now. We must change before the caps are gone, before the sea levels rise and our coastal cities are gone. The end is near! I think the solution is to hurt our economy as much as possible so that way the Chinese and India can do the polluting for us! That will fix it all. Best of all the scientist agree with me so lets throw rational thought out the window and get to killing our economy a little faster.

Does the water level rise in your glass when the ice cubes melts? No.

The floating ice melts first, north pole is affected more. Antartica is actually gaining ice due to increased snow fall. South pole is land based. But that process may reverse over the next few decades. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses/
“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some other contribution to sea level rise that is not accounted for.”

The world isn't doomed, comfy modern life could be though if people won't learn to plan long term.