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burninmylight said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah, a New 3DS/DSi type mid-gen upgrade to the Switch is very likely.

Came in to say this.

I don't think we'll see it in 2018 as Soundwave predicted though; 2019 or 2020 seems more likely to me. Hardware revisions tend to come a few years after the original release.



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curl-6 said:
burninmylight said:

Came in to say this.

I don't think we'll see it in 2018 as Soundwave predicted though; 2019 or 2020 seems more likely to me. Hardware revisions tend to come a few years after the original release.

GBA SP, DS Lite & 3DS XL all released before the original model was 2 years old so Switch releasing in March 2017 means that a late Summer/early Fall revision isn't out of the question.



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daredevil.shark said:
So much debate for a system that will supposately be weaker than Xbox One and PS4. Plus given the nature of the console and Nintendo very few third party games will be released in it. It's really funny to get detail to the molecular level for the weaker system (compared to current gen). Anyways good read. Back to gaming.

Depends on what type of 3rd party support you are talking about, considering that Switch is also the successor to 3DS and Vita is unlikely to get a successor, its possible that Switch recieves alot of the type of support those devices recieved.

Multiplats of PS4/XBO games are much less certain but if Switch can get similar multiplat support that Wii U initially had and keep it than that would be a pretty solid level of overall support.

Full Nintendo support+strong Japanese support+strong indie support+strong family/casual support+decent mainstream western support would give it an overall solid level of support despite not recieving all of multiplat games on PS4/XBO.



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zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

I don't think we'll see it in 2018 as Soundwave predicted though; 2019 or 2020 seems more likely to me. Hardware revisions tend to come a few years after the original release.

GBA SP, DS Lite & 3DS XL all released before the original model was 2 years old so Switch releasing in March 2017 means that a late Summer/early Fall revision isn't out of the question.

I was talking more about a New 3DS/DSi/PS4 Pro type update where the technical guts are substantially upgraded.



curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

GBA SP, DS Lite & 3DS XL all released before the original model was 2 years old so Switch releasing in March 2017 means that a late Summer/early Fall revision isn't out of the question.

I was talking more about a New 3DS/DSi/PS4 Pro type update where the technical guts are substantially upgraded.

Gotcha, i could see a DS Lite/3DS XL type of revision at some point in the 2nd half of 2017 with a DSi/New 3DS in 2019/2020 like you said.

I also wouldnt be surprised to see Nintendo release a home only or portable only model at some point.



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zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

I was talking more about a New 3DS/DSi/PS4 Pro type update where the technical guts are substantially upgraded.

Gotcha, i could see a DS Lite/3DS XL type of revision at some point in the 2nd half of 2017 with a DSi/New 3DS in 2019/2020 like you said.

I also wouldnt be surprised to see Nintendo release a home only or portable only model at some point.

Yeah, I'm thinking it'll be a lot like 3DS; a Lite type deal in 2018, then a New 3DS type deal in 2019/2020. The latter could run games with better resolution or framerate, like N3DS and PS4 Pro.

If it's true that Nintendo was in too big a hurry to wait for Pascal with the standard Switch, and went with Maxwell instead, it wouldn't be surprising to see Pascal adopted in a later revision.



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curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

Gotcha, i could see a DS Lite/3DS XL type of revision at some point in the 2nd half of 2017 with a DSi/New 3DS in 2019/2020 like you said.

I also wouldnt be surprised to see Nintendo release a home only or portable only model at some point.

Yeah, I'm thinking it'll be a lot like 3DS; a Lite type deal in 2018, then a New 3DS type deal in 2019/2020. The latter could run games with better resolution or framerate, like N3DS and PS4 Pro.

If it's true that Nintendo was in too big a hurry to wait for Pascal with the standard Switch, and went with Maxwell instead, it wouldn't be surprising to see Pascal adopted in a later revision.

Ya im thinking maybe a Switch Lite, which has a 5" 720p screen so similar is size to PSP or Vita then a Switch Pro, a more powerful version with a 1080p screen which will be the same size as the original model.

Perhaps something like Switch Lite-$199 & Switch Pro-$299.



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zorg1000 said:
daredevil.shark said:
So much debate for a system that will supposately be weaker than Xbox One and PS4. Plus given the nature of the console and Nintendo very few third party games will be released in it. It's really funny to get detail to the molecular level for the weaker system (compared to current gen). Anyways good read. Back to gaming.

Depends on what type of 3rd party support you are talking about, considering that Switch is also the successor to 3DS and Vita is unlikely to get a successor, its possible that Switch recieves alot of the type of support those devices recieved.

Multiplats of PS4/XBO games are much less certain but if Switch can get similar multiplat support that Wii U initially had and keep it than that would be a pretty solid level of overall support.

Full Nintendo support+strong Japanese support+strong indie support+strong family/casual support+decent mainstream western support would give it an overall solid level of support despite not recieving all of multiplat games on PS4/XBO.

So Nintendo Switch is a handheld. It's by your definition. BTW handheld shrink from 240 million to just 70-80 million this gen.



daredevil.shark said:
zorg1000 said:

Depends on what type of 3rd party support you are talking about, considering that Switch is also the successor to 3DS and Vita is unlikely to get a successor, its possible that Switch recieves alot of the type of support those devices recieved.

Multiplats of PS4/XBO games are much less certain but if Switch can get similar multiplat support that Wii U initially had and keep it than that would be a pretty solid level of overall support.

Full Nintendo support+strong Japanese support+strong indie support+strong family/casual support+decent mainstream western support would give it an overall solid level of support despite not recieving all of multiplat games on PS4/XBO.

So Nintendo Switch is a handheld. It's by your definition. BTW handheld shrink from 240 million to just 70-80 million this gen.

Switch has the functionality of both a handheld & a console and I'm well aware of the decline from DS/PSP to 3DS/Vita..........I have no clue how either of those things apply to anything you or I said in our previous posts, care to elaborate?



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