Ruler said:
nope FFXV outsold it pretty much, what FFXIII archieved with ealier launch in Japan FFXV did it @day1 |
Not sure where you get your info.
Yeah I agree ff13 is not a reason for why ff15 did poorly in Japan, ff as a franchise went very very from its roots and originality, but non the less ff15 is a very good game but the people at SE need to remember that ff is fantasy game not a si fi game or an action game
| Intrinsic said: The problem with looking at numbers like how you just did, is that if you already are thinking something before you look at it then you will pretty much see exactly what you adid need to see to push your argument. First off, Yakuza 5 opened with 350k+ on the PS3 in 2012 to an install base of over 8M. Yakuza 6 opened with 210k+ to an install base of around 3M and you call that a flop?????? Secondly, look at FF13 and then the subsequent sales of the series since then. And then consider that in two weeks and not counting digital sales it's done almost 800k on a console that has sold only 3M units in Japan. With digital sales it could very well be over 1M by now and that's being conservative. Meaning that around 1 in every 3 people that owns a PS4 in Japan owns the game. And you call that a flop? And Yakuza 0 launched on two platforms, PS4/PS3 with the bulk of its sales being on PS3.... what does that tell you? If you are going to use numbers to push a point at least make sure you look at the full picture. |
Don't you know?
It's trendy right now among gamers to hate FF XV
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Don't you know? It's trendy right now among gamers to hate FF XV |
hahah no that was FFXIII. Oh boy those were the days.
JRPG is a slowly declining genre. FFXV at least tried to provide some freedom even so it still is far behind the freedom you can experience in western RPG like Skyrim.
| Shadow1980 said: I think the problem lies in reduced attach rates, which have declined noticeably in Japan since Gen 5 even though they've declined in the West (note that current-gen attach rates are low because the generation is only three years old; attach rates for a given system increase over time):
Since hardware sales in Japan have declined since Gen 5, that means software sales for home consoles have declined at a faster rate than hardware sales have. Combined Gen 7 software sales were just over half combined Gen 5 software sales. Last generation, only two PS3 games sold over a million copies in Japan, and one of them was FFXIII, the best-selling game for the system. The Wii had more million-plus sellers (and New Super Mario Bros Wii is the second best-selling console game ever in Japan after the original SMB), but the PS3's superior third-party support is probably why its attach rate was better. So, it's perhaps no coincidence that Final Fantasy's fortunes have declined seemingly in tandem with the fortunes of the console market. |
dering. Do you think there may be a relationship between attach ratio and total available software per generation?
And by total available software I don't mean total software sales but rather total games released. I think the more games we have released in a given generation, the lower the overall attach ratio becomes. if that makes sense....
Japan just don't like Square Enix, it's just that simple. Ask a Japanese person, you'll see.
Not so many people there liked FF XV, It's obvious so why deny it?
| Birimbau said: JRPG is a slowly declining genre. FFXV at least tried to provide some freedom even so it still is far behind the freedom you can experience in western RPG like Skyrim. |
I used to think that...but we got star ocean, pokemon(dont know if that would be considered JRPG), FF, Tales of.., Ys series, Valyrie chronicles...I wish we had this many RPGS when i was growing up. Back then we were limited by systems and because no one listened to the fans...they based what they made solely off sales.
| deskpro2k3 said: Japan just don't like Square Enix, it's just that simple. Ask a Japanese person, you'll see. |
So that must be the reason why squenix has several apps in top50 most grossed and downloaded apps in apple store. The reason why squenix always have at least 1 game in top10 best selling games every year. Damn japanese is such a masochist country /s
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