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NobleTeam360 said:
What happened to all the Trump supporters? They've grown awfully quiet lately. It's ok, Trump conned your gullible little minds

Or maybe they got bored of talking to walls. Haters, gonna hate after all.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

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FunFan said:
NobleTeam360 said:
What happened to all the Trump supporters? They've grown awfully quiet lately. It's ok, Trump conned your gullible little minds

Or maybe they got bored of talking to walls. Haters, gonna hate after all.

I don't know about that, Trump has clearly been bought off by the biggest bank and oil tycoons. It's obvious in his hirings so far. But hey, like you said; it's like talking to a brick wall.



NobleTeam360 said:
FunFan said:

Or maybe they got bored of talking to walls. Haters, gonna hate after all.

I don't know about that, Trump has clearly been bought off by the biggest bank and oil tycoons. It's obvious in his hirings so far. But hey, like you said; it's like talking to a brick wall.

Have you consider that what he hired are actual human beings and not companies. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

Trump picks will have to leave their company if they are going to work for him. That means abbandoning a multimillion dollar job career position for a thousand dollars public service position. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

If they leave their companies then said company have no authorithy over them, unlike with lobbying. And theres no longer any reason for them to pursue the intersts of said company, unless they own a good portion of said company. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

More Importantly, they work for Trump. Not the other way around. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

FunFan said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I don't know about that, Trump has clearly been bought off by the biggest bank and oil tycoons. It's obvious in his hirings so far. But hey, like you said; it's like talking to a brick wall.

Have you consider that what he hired are actual human beings and not companies. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

Trump picks will have to leave their company if they are going to work for him. That means abbandoning a multimillion dollar job career position for a thousand dollars public service position. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

If they leave their companies then said copmpany have no authorithy over them, unlike with lobbying. And theres no longer any reason for them to pursue the intersts of said company, unless they own a good portion of said company. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

More Importantly, they work for Trump. Not the other way around. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

Hey, if you really think they're not leaving their jobs so they can push the agenda of their big bank and oil companies then that's fine.



NobleTeam360 said:
FunFan said:

Have you consider that what he hired are actual human beings and not companies. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

Trump picks will have to leave their company if they are going to work for him. That means abbandoning a multimillion dollar job career position for a thousand dollars public service position. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

If they leave their companies then said copmpany have no authorithy over them, unlike with lobbying. And theres no longer any reason for them to pursue the intersts of said company, unless they own a good portion of said company. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

More Importantly, they work for Trump. Not the other way around. That is the fact, anything else is assumption.

Hey, if you really think they're not leaving their jobs so they can push the agenda of their big bank and oil companies then that's fine.

I'm not saying they are not guilty. I'm simply separating what is fact from what is not. And the reasons why Trump supporters keep getting insulted are not facts but at best conjecture.

In other words what you haters are really saying is, "Trump supporters are stupid because I think they been conned."



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

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FunFan said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Hey, if you really think they're not leaving their jobs so they can push the agenda of their big bank and oil companies then that's fine.

I'm not saying they are not guilty. I'm simply separating what is fact from what is not. And the reasons why Trump supporters keep getting insulted are not facts but at best conjecture.

In other words what you are really saying is, "Trump supporters are stupid because I think they been conned."

I'd also like to say I don't necessarily think these hirings are bad, just that a lot of Republicans are hypocrites becuse they bashed Hillary for doing the same exact thing Trump is doing now.



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FunFan said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Hey, if you really think they're not leaving their jobs so they can push the agenda of their big bank and oil companies then that's fine.

I'm not saying they are not guilty. I'm simply separating what is fact from what is not. And the reasons why Trump supporters keep getting insulted are not facts but at best conjecture.

In other words what you haters are really saying is, "Trump supporters are stupid because I think they been conned."

This ^

Over and over and over and over again.

Think think think think.

Evidence?

Trump haters are stupid because all they keep doing is saying what they think with with no facts to back it up.



NobleTeam360 said:
FunFan said:

I'm not saying they are not guilty. I'm simply separating what is fact from what is not. And the reasons why Trump supporters keep getting insulted are not facts but at best conjecture.

In other words what you are really saying is, "Trump supporters are stupid because I think they been conned."

I'd also like to say I don't necessarily think these hirings are bad, just that a lot of Republicans are hypocrites becuse they bashed Hillary for doing the same exact thing Trump is doing now.

That and the lobbying. Bashing Trump or Hilary is fine, but insulting their followers, thats what I don't agree with. Or at least if people want to insult other members then they should do it based on facts not on suspicions they are cocksure are truth.

Innocent until proved guilty. But in here is Innocent unless pressumed guilty.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

poklane said:

  1. It would destabalize Europe even further. Since the fall of the Soviet Union Russia has already invaded 3 European countries (Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine)
  2.  and they've fueled the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. 
  3. .Moldova has been partially occupied for over 24 years now, 
  4. .Georgia has been partitioned by Russia and Russia is still waging an active war against Ukraine on a daily basis, while also annexing a part of Ukraine.
  5. Such a relationship would come under Russia's terms, because Russia simply doesn't negotiate.
  6. . It's always their way or no way.
  7. . This could be things such as less American influence in the Middle East and Asia, leaving them to fall under Russia's influence.
  8.  It might even mean America would have to abandon Eastern Europe, which could seriously lead to a Russian invasion into the Baltics, which could seriously mean World War 3.
  9. . Russia has been growing increasingly aggressive towards Europe in recent years, such as the war against Ukraine, setting up huge propaganda campaigns aimed at destabalizing Europe and they're outright financing anti-EU and pro-Russia parties. Less pro-EU parties & more pro-Russia parties make a 
  10. possible invasion into the Baltics a whole lot easier.

1. Moldova http://www.politico.eu/article/moldova-elects-pro-russian-igor-dodon-as-president/ 

Georgia http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/10409344/Georgia-elections-Russia-welcomes-new-president-Giorgi-Margvelashvili.html

Ukraine is in big trouble right now, hard to tell what will happen in the future.

2. No, they did actually the opposite. Armenia and Azerbaijan has a really difficult relatiosnhip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_War

3.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_War

4. Is is not that simple u want it to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkhaz%E2%80%93Georgian_conflict

Crimea  was never a part of Ukraine. It is ( was ? ) a Autonomus Republic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Republic_of_Crimea

5.  Of course not. Russia negotiate with every country. Even USA back in the days when it was a global supreme power have to negotiate sometimes. Here are the glimpse.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timdaiss/2016/12/10/opec-russian-oil-cut-deal-pushes-up-asian-natural-gas-prices/#3f4a96c25e45

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_Protocol

6. Sure, 75% price drop in oil prices, sanctions, GDP loss, first budget deficit  since 2008 crisis etc was " their way or no way "

7. Russia influnce in Middle East - maybe ( Arab nations in general are very weak and divided, they dislike each other a lot and there is a fucking Isreal between all of them and Russia can play on it ) but in Asia - not gonna happen. Asia is going to be a China's sphere and that is what USA is afraid of. 

8. Pribaltika is meaningless for Russia - Kaliningrad is enough to make Russia happy ( it block the Baltic sea ). Do u really think that countries with 1.5 K army can do anything ? :D

USA would have to abandon Eastern Europe - maybe. USA biggest enemy is China and if they want to defeat them somehow they will have to make an alliance with Russia. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geopolitics

9. USA influence in Europe is vainishing, they focus on Asia now. As u can read in the link above, USA have to make Russia at least neutral if they want to defend their position againts China. So maybe they will make some sort of a deal.

10. Possible Russian invansion into the Baltics.. - they will defend themselfes 3-5 days.