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Mr Puggsly on 09 December 2016
VGPolyglot said:
Qwark said:

So basically you support communism in which you have a little more choice what you are going to be. Not a very favourable opinion in the US probably, since its the capitalistic centre of the world. I like technology and concurrency in a free market so I strongly oppose to a communist system. The Soviet Union and eastern Germany have shown it doesn't work and deprived companies of innovation. If the wealth over the world or even the United States is equally spreaded quite a lot of people will become much poorer.

Communism has much more choice than capitalism. Capitalism forces people into jobs that they don't want in order to make a living wage, because if they don't they starve to death. Communism allows people to flourish because instead of spending a lot of time in depression over bills or hunger they can use their free time to express themselves.

Isn't commusist virtually synonymous with starving and low quality of life? I feel you ignore history.

Nobody is starving in the US. I'm pretty sure we have the fattest homeless people in the world. If someone does starve in this country then I suspect abuse or something. You can beg for change and get a decent meal.

If you're struggling to make a living than its possible you made bad decisions in life. Its also very possible to live comfortably doing something actually enjoy in a capitalist country if you just make the fucking effort.



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fatslob-:O on 09 December 2016
VGPolyglot said:

Why do the right always believe that they're the ones that are being censored? The KKK are still allowed to have public protests! Donald Trump, whose campaign was basically an attack on hispanics and Muslims, is going to be the next president of the United States.

It's like Scott Adams insisted, confirmation bias exists ... 

You just don't yet see or choose not to see the vocal right supporters being oppressed ... 

The right are not the ones carrying out these violent protests in spite of the election results ... 

Trump supporters have the right to voice their views WITHOUT physical repercussions!

For freedom of speech to have any value it must protect unpopular speech too like we see with far right supporters otherwise it has no value ... 



VGPolyglot on 09 December 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
VGPolyglot said:

Communism has much more choice than capitalism. Capitalism forces people into jobs that they don't want in order to make a living wage, because if they don't they starve to death. Communism allows people to flourish because instead of spending a lot of time in depression over bills or hunger they can use their free time to express themselves.

Isn't commusist virtually synonymous with starving and low quality of life? I feel you ignore history.

Nobody is starving in the US. I'm pretty sure we have the fattest homeless people in the world. If someone does starve in this country then I suspect abuse or something. You can beg for change and get a decent meal.

If you're struggling to make a living than its possible you made bad decisions in life. Its also very possible to live comfortably doing something actually enjoy in a capitalist country if you just make the fucking effort.

One in eight American households face food insecurity (http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2015-united-states-hunger-and-poverty-facts/). That's tens of millions of people. So you're flat out wrong. Also, I told you before that even the "communist" countries of the past did not claim to be communist, but as I can tell with your previous posts you are purposefully ignoring what I'm saying (which was especially evident when you called me a liberal despite me telling you beforehand that leftists are against liberalism).



VGPolyglot on 09 December 2016
fatslob-:O said:
VGPolyglot said:

Why do the right always believe that they're the ones that are being censored? The KKK are still allowed to have public protests! Donald Trump, whose campaign was basically an attack on hispanics and Muslims, is going to be the next president of the United States.

It's like Scott Adams insisted, confirmation bias exists ... 

You just don't yet see or choose not to see the vocal right supporters being oppressed ... 

The right are not the ones carrying out these violent protests in spite of the election results ... 

Trump supporters have the right to voice their views WITHOUT physical repercussions!

For freedom of speech to have any value it must protect unpopular speech too like we see with far right supporters otherwise it has no value ... 

If that's true, then why did Trump have to tell his supporters to stop the wave of hate crimes that his supporters were committing after the elections? The ones who did the hate crimes did it because of the election results because they felt vindicated after his victory.



fatslob-:O on 09 December 2016
VGPolyglot said:

If that's true, then why did Trump have to tell his supporters to stop the wave of hate crimes that his supporters were committing after the elections? The ones who did the hate crimes did it because of the election results because they felt vindicated after his victory.

If you actually read my post I said that "they were not the ones carrying out the violent protests", big difference there ... 

Trump only offered that line if it were the case ... 



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Mr Puggsly on 09 December 2016
VGPolyglot said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Isn't commusist virtually synonymous with starving and low quality of life? I feel you ignore history.

Nobody is starving in the US. I'm pretty sure we have the fattest homeless people in the world. If someone does starve in this country then I suspect abuse or something. You can beg for change and get a decent meal.

If you're struggling to make a living than its possible you made bad decisions in life. Its also very possible to live comfortably doing something actually enjoy in a capitalist country if you just make the fucking effort.

One in eight American households face food insecurity (http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2015-united-states-hunger-and-poverty-facts/). That's tens of millions of people. So you're flat out wrong. Also, I told you before that even the "communist" countries of the past did not claim to be communist, but as I can tell with your previous posts you are purposefully ignoring what I'm saying (which was especially evident when you called me a liberal despite me telling you beforehand that leftists are against liberalism).

Food insecurity and starving aren't the same thing. That could also happen from irresponsible use of money. For example, people that sell food stamps for drugs, alcohol, etc.

You could eat fairly well with like a hundred bucks a month. So about $3 a day. I did that in periods I didn't have much money. So again, when I hear people are starving I question what the situation is.

You say you aren't a liberal but you have all their same arguments and talking points. I can't see you as anything but liberal.



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Mr Puggsly on 09 December 2016
VGPolyglot said:
fatslob-:O said:

It's like Scott Adams insisted, confirmation bias exists ... 

You just don't yet see or choose not to see the vocal right supporters being oppressed ... 

The right are not the ones carrying out these violent protests in spite of the election results ... 

Trump supporters have the right to voice their views WITHOUT physical repercussions!

For freedom of speech to have any value it must protect unpopular speech too like we see with far right supporters otherwise it has no value ... 

If that's true, then why did Trump have to tell his supporters to stop the wave of hate crimes that his supporters were committing after the elections? The ones who did the hate crimes did it because of the election results because they felt vindicated after his victory.

Some of it might have been people on the right, and some of it was people on the left. https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=trump+hate+hoax&FORM=HDRSC6

Trump did it because dems pressured him. He could have said no, but he was being diplomatic. With that said people on the left criticized left wing rioters.



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VGPolyglot on 09 December 2016
fatslob-:O said:
VGPolyglot said:

If that's true, then why did Trump have to tell his supporters to stop the wave of hate crimes that his supporters were committing after the elections? The ones who did the hate crimes did it because of the election results because they felt vindicated after his victory.

If you actually read my post I said that "they were not the ones carrying out the violent protests", big difference there ... 

Trump only offered that line if it were the case ... 

Why would they carry out violent protests after winning?



VGPolyglot on 09 December 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
VGPolyglot said:

If that's true, then why did Trump have to tell his supporters to stop the wave of hate crimes that his supporters were committing after the elections? The ones who did the hate crimes did it because of the election results because they felt vindicated after his victory.

Some of it might have been people on the right, and some of it was people on the left. https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=trump+hate+hoax&FORM=HDRSC6

Trump did it because dems pressured him. He could have said no, but he was being diplomatic. With that said people on the left criticized left wing rioters.

You seem to have a case of survivorship bias: you only look at the success stories and what they did to get there while ignoring countless other people who did the same thing and yet failed.



Mr Puggsly on 09 December 2016
VGPolyglot said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Some of it might have been people on the right, and some of it was people on the left. https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=trump+hate+hoax&FORM=HDRSC6

Trump did it because dems pressured him. He could have said no, but he was being diplomatic. With that said people on the left criticized left wing rioters.

You seem to have a case of survivorship bias: you only look at the success stories and what they did to get there while ignoring countless other people who did the same thing and yet failed.

Was that response intended for that post?

I'm confused.



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