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November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

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iNathan said:
jason1637 said:

But why mention having the best BF? If they were up from last year saying they had the best Nov would have been better. 

Because BF week is more important than the whole November for sales that's why, is that so hard to understand? Lmao 

PS4 will be fine just wait until they announce 55M sold by Ces next month. 

Lol 1 week of sales is more important than a month of sales? Seriously do you actually believe that? The whole month of sales would have been better if they were up YOY because PS4Pro and that last years November was the best they have had in years, and the best Nov for the PS4 .

Swordmasterman said:
jason1637 said:

Ok. The software line up this year is very weak compared to last year. The only game that performed well compared to other games in it series was BF1. Software sells hardware, and the software this year just wasn't strong enough to sell as much or more hardware than last year.

Pokemon did well. The "other games" only had 1 game prior, majority sold because of the hype in their 1 game.

Was speaking mostly about PS4/XO/WU since 3DS is already up YOY.



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Aura7541 said:
jason1637 said:

Link to the PR for the late november numbers pls. 50m is nice but if they were up for Nov WW they would have said so.

Here's the late November 2015 PR and here's the end of 2015 PR. Also, Sony didn't say the PS4 was up YOY when they released its late November 2015 PR, but it was up YOY over 2014.

My advice to you is to abstain from looking into things way too much. Just wait for all the numbers to come in and then access the situation. Yeah, I know. We are all eager for the numbers, but we need to be patient.

+1. 

 

You said it Daddy!

Preach brother! 

Testify! 

 

Haha stupid Simpsons quote ^

 

But seriously though,  couldn't have said it better.  



SWORDF1SH said:
Insidb said:

Don't bother, man: just file this under "console warz" or "cherry-picking to the max."

I have given up. I never known anybody predict the end of consoles on one NPD. I told him why I think it's not the end of consoles but apparently he only wants me to use US NPD numbers to prove it isn't... Like wtf! Lmao! 

O and according to him if you say lmao you are really mad and angry. I guess this guy is full of presumptions. Lmao!

Whoa, why are you so mad and angry?

LMAO!



So wait, just the retail versions of Pokemon Sun/moon outsold Infinite Warfare retail + digital?
Because they seemed to only counted the retail sales for Pokemon while they counted both for cod.



TheGamer95 said:
So wait, just the retail versions of Pokemon Sun/moon outsold Infinite Warfare retail + digital?
Because they seemed to only counted the retail sales for Pokemon while they counted both for cod.

The list goes by revenue instead of sales.



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Insidb said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I have given up. I never known anybody predict the end of consoles on one NPD. I told him why I think it's not the end of consoles but apparently he only wants me to use US NPD numbers to prove it isn't... Like wtf! Lmao! 

O and according to him if you say lmao you are really mad and angry. I guess this guy is full of presumptions. Lmao!

Whoa, why are you so mad and angry?

LMAO!

LMAO! I'm mad because insipid replied to my post. It's ruined my day.

LMAO! Why you mad Bro? LMAO!



VGPolyglot said:
TheGamer95 said:
So wait, just the retail versions of Pokemon Sun/moon outsold Infinite Warfare retail + digital?
Because they seemed to only counted the retail sales for Pokemon while they counted both for cod.

The list goes by revenue instead of sales.

Also digital only counts from companies that are willing to give NPD their digital data. I'm not sure if Nintendo supply their digital data. 



SWORDF1SH said:
Insidb said:

Don't bother, man: just file this under "console warz" or "cherry-picking to the max."

I have given up. I never known anybody predict the end of consoles on one NPD. I told him why I think it's not the end of consoles but apparently he only wants me to use US NPD numbers to prove it isn't... Like wtf! Lmao! 

O and according to him if you say lmao you are really mad and angry. I guess this guy is full of presumptions. Lmao!

Come on man..I think you are being a tad dramatic here – These are only my opinions and it really does not matter that much in the bigger scheme of things. Moving on, rather than predicting the end of consoles right now, I merely stated that if Nov NPD is a sign of a declining trend then that would not be good for Sony with 3 huge selling factors all lined up that month. And yet hardware was down for them,- even with all the aforementioned 3 factors. That is the main point I am focussing on and hence my question to you was why do you think Nov turned out like this? –(and honestly you have not specifically answered this). I would be interested to hear how and why such an anomaly occurred in the NPD month of Nov. Look and I could be wrong about an immediate trend developing (and I am happy to be as I have in the past) and Dec and thereafter will provide a clearer picture as I have said to another poster on this very thread.. Also I have always stated consoles will transition to an online service eventually and expect this to occur within 10 years as tvs and devices run an app like gaming service which we are seeing now on pcs and convertibles – so yes indeed, longer term, I think console hardware as an industry will diminish moving forward (even though I prefer them).  To this end I simply think MS have done more homework in this regard and are better positioned for such a transition to an actual gaming service.  Anyhoo... As for the lmao comment, I'm not a guy that spends a lot of time on social media or even posting a great deal on these kind of sites - as you will see my score is significantly less  (since 2007)than someone like yourself who posts a great deal more here.  I'm not accustomed to such acronyms being used in response to someone 's genuine opinion - when a well considered and courteous reply would more than suffice. Cheers



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3sexty said:

To this end I simply think MS have done more homework in this regard and are better positioned for such a transition to an actual gaming service.

I think Sony has done their homework and will transition fine, they have Playstation Now which is available on Playstation devices, Windows & select Sony/Samsung smart TVs.

Currently all it offers is PS3 games but in the future I wouldnt be surprised to see it offer brand new games.



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zorg1000 said:
3sexty said:

To this end I simply think MS have done more homework in this regard and are better positioned for such a transition to an actual gaming service.

I think Sony has done their homework and will transition fine, they have Playstation Now which is available on Playstation devices, Windows & select Sony/Samsung smart TVs.

Currently all it offers is PS3 games but in the future I wouldnt be surprised to see it offer brand new games.

Yep Sorry I forgot about playstation Now. So it pretty much allows for streaming similar to xbox. smart TVs will become a key platform in the future for gaming I think.  They will need to get PS 4 games working on this as well which is prob more important and in development in that case.



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