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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

Jranation on 10 December 2016
tak13 said:
Jranation said:

Oh I didnt know that! 

I was also worried that the 3DS would be quite down as well but Pokemon Go + SM got me thinking. 

What?

Do you remember how much it sold last November...? It didn't have any discount and there weren't enounh New models because of big stagnant old models stock. This year it's  fully New 3ds/xl.

Also, you follow amazon ranking, New 3ds xl was perfoming exceptionally till to get sold out....

3DS was yoy up in october, that was the 4th or 5th consecutive month to by yoy up after Pokemon go! Nintendo released a 99$  new 3ds for black friday and for the first the time the coveted black new 3ds in the USA, Pokemon S/M broke records of course thanks to Pokemon go... Why then, did you expect 3ds to  be quite down?

Switch? Most people don't deem it to be 3ds successor but wii u's, not unjustly! Plus that Nintendo calls it a home system first and foremost and noted that they  will keep pushing 3DS... I agree with that. Switch the home console with a commodity that lets you to carry it out or move to another room inside your home and keep playing without a tv.

it remains vague if switch replaces 3DS too.

Just because it's also a handheld console, it doesn't mean that it's 3ds successor! 3DS might get its own, ( they could still have shared game library with switch),  unless Nintendo can sell switch standalone at 199$ and for  less, later. They could make a switch version to be for switch what 2ds if for 3ds.

If 3ds had a different successor, I would like something like these... That's 3ds x tablet.

Oh, no. I predicted around 600k for the 3DS on that NPD prediction thread. I was just getting worried about that rumor. But since you told me it was yoy up its all good XD 

 

And I also didnt know about the 3D being Yoy up lately. Got too distracted from the whole X1 vs PS4 talks. 



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xl-klaudkil on 10 December 2016

How can PlayStation have there best bf ever when they sold 400k less



 

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SWORDF1SH on 10 December 2016
EricHiggin said:
Intrinsic said:
Ok.. I've got to know. Why don't sony/ms release numbers? Especially puzzling for sony. Why is it ok to announce 50M sold but not release their NPD numbers?

 

Intrinsic said:

Yes NPD owns the rights to the numbers. And MS and co. pay to get accesss to those numbers on the grounds that they can't share the information. But that's put in place so Sony doesnt go announcing to the world what MS numbers are if MS doesmt want the world to know. 

What I don't know tho is why don't Sony share PS numbers. It's their own numbers and they have the right to disclose that information if they want. I mean, as bad as nintendo was getting it they still shared their monthly numbers. So what gives?

 

Intrinsic said:

this will be my last reply to you. 

 

  1. this is an NPD thread. And you have cited me on multiple occasions where I said it would be good to see NPD numbers. Sowhat are you saying?
  2. that's BS. You talked about a lack of numbers. And specifically said Sony had been boasting with numbers for years and now are not. If you are talking about Global sales and not NPD then surely you are aware that two or three days ago Sony just announced GLOBAL numbers of 50M? How can you possibly say you aren't talking about NPD but global numbers and how Sony is not releasing them anymore when they clearly are and have? And when in my first reply to you I Pointed that very thing out? 
And yet I am the one trolling? Your argument is all over the place. you are constantly changing what you are saying. Now you are saying that in an NPD thread, and in reply to people talking about the lack of NPD numbers, you called Sony out for changing how they do things and not show numbers but you were referring to global numbers. which doesn't make sense cause Sony just released global numners days before the NPD......... smh. 

 

Based on the posts, to sum it up quick from my point of view,

All I see is you asking why PS won't share their NPD, and I replied with two reasons why that might be. You said you thought I was wrong because PS hasn't shown their PS4 NPD the entire gen. I just simply implied that doesn't mean what I said couldn't be right. Then you started going on about how apparently I was basically continually saying PS had shown their NPD, which I never did. I just gave a reason why they might not have. Thats it. The part about changing tone was about their comments mostly. If you don't want to believe that, thats fine, but thats what I meant. Tone as in talking, words. I acknowledged PS won, since I'm not against PS or any brand. I'm not sure why having an open mind is such a problem but thats where I stand. If this isn't good enough for you, for whatever reason, then we will just have to agree to disagree I guess.

I think the best thing is go through their recent 50M statement and explain why this is different from previous statements. Personally I don’t have the foggiest what you're going on about, if announcing 50M, best Black Friday week in PlayStation history and 350M games sold is hiding something, we'll need you to explain. 



Safiir on 10 December 2016
xl-klaudkil said:
How can PlayStation have there best bf ever when they sold 400k less

It can't. If there's any truth in this rumor it probably refers to the black friday week and not the whole month.



WebMasterFlex on 10 December 2016
xl-klaudkil said:
How can PlayStation have there best bf ever when they sold 400k less

Yes it doesn't make sense.



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Kerotan on 10 December 2016
Jranation said:
Kerotan said:

What about the Nintendo fans? 

 

Hello darkness my old friend.... 

The Switch is coming soooo our expectations were quite low. Like we shouldn't be expecting the Wii U and 3DS to reach PS4 and XONE level. Same with the PSvita as well. 

Lol the Switch was just announced.  You'd years of terrible NPD results since ps4/xb1 released in 2013. It's been a shocking time for Nintendo fans who like sales.  Gone from first place last gen to last place this gen while handheld sales are massively declined gen over gen. 



Madword on 10 December 2016
Jranation said:
WebMasterFlex said:
It seems PS4's victory hurts some people. Be grateful there is no Europe NPD...

Where have you been in the last couple months? Because XONE streak also hurt quite a few people. 

 

No surprise! People will get hurt no matter who wins. 

Indeed there are always someone, but I would say that most people on the site are pretty chilled and give good reasons why they think one thing is happening.

Most people (I'm sure there were one or two who were hurt) gave reasons why they thought sales of PS4 were down, and they also stated why they thought sales would jump back. Alot of that was drowned out by PS4 doesnt have a 4k BR drive and doesnt do 4k scaling like the XBOs, and XBOs has returned and will beat PS4, and PS4 is doomed talk.

The biggest problem on this and many other forums is that people take something that has changed and turn it into a "this is now the norm" without using any knowledge or evidence. I've seen it a lot in the monthly sales where one console will be up in the hourlies and it will suddenly be console A is going to win because its selling more at that one point.

It's happening in this topic thread, 300k is not much and MS has created a trend. I mean we've had it for much of this gen and part of last gen, secret sauce, the cloud, kinect videos, that current AR system, High def blu ray, best looking pixels, only console to do 4k native, Sony has no games.... it's all getting a bit childish and like some people will post crapgamer stuff all over topics as truth and it should be stopped.

In fact I think VG should be harsher and ban some of these 3rd party sites from being mentioned, crapgamer would be one of them.



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katakpisang on 10 December 2016

if true about closer to 100k then ....................... lol



craighopkins on 10 December 2016

How long do we have to wait for real numbers



tak13 on 10 December 2016
Kerotan said:
Jranation said:

The Switch is coming soooo our expectations were quite low. Like we shouldn't be expecting the Wii U and 3DS to reach PS4 and XONE level. Same with the PSvita as well. 

Lol the Switch was just announced.  You'd years of terrible NPD results since ps4/xb1 released in 2013. It's been a shocking time for Nintendo fans who like sales.  Gone from first place last gen to last place this gen while handheld sales are massively declined gen over gen. 
                               

That's fairly inflammatory... You might be somewhat right, but your way is provocative and pejorative. You're usually discreet in that kind of posts, I'm surprised.

Sometimes I wish ds+wii wouldn't be such huge success, to not see these kind of  posts due to their inevitable dwindling.

Oh, now you know how we feel? Yeah but declined to a decent level, trust me, we're satisfied with 3ds sales, back to gba levels! Only those who considered ds a normal seller must be dissappointed.

Currently, we're very pleasured to see Nintendo mobile games venture boosting their handheld console sales.  

 

 

By the way, is  it a shocking time for you because of psv perfomance? Do you remember it, or only ps4 exists for you? ( Payback )

Also, I am somewhat vexed  with you because that I haven't seen you talking about the playstation equivalent of ds->3ds, PS2->PS3 but instead you exult about how much near its sales were to the 7th gen market leader...  What I should think of this...? 

 

P.s 3DS sales were very high, especially for its 6th year,  in November...