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squibbfire on 08 December 2016
hunter_alien said:
The damage done to the FF brand is massive. + The rise of digital and the fall of home consoles in Japan helped lower the numbers as well. Taking all of this into consideration, IMO FFXV did pretty damn good numbers in Japan.

Yeah I agree. dude...feels good not being the only one here thinking that.



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deskpro2k3 on 08 December 2016
pokoko said:
Why would you compare the Japanese launch to the American numbers when we have decades of historical numbers in Japan we can use? Isn't comparing Japanese numbers to previous Japanese numbers the logical course of action?

There isn't a digital download of FFXIII on PS3, and Xbox360 so physical retail sales will of cause be higher. Now you have to consider all the possible factors that will effect retail sales of this current installment because there is a digital version.



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squibbfire on 08 December 2016
xl-klaudkil said:
squibbfire said:

Well im sure there were a lot more ps3s, ps2s, ps1s in japan back in those days then there are pS4s now when the previous ff games were sold. not once have i see any take that into account. people fail to realized that japan has sold over 8-10 million ps1 and ps2 in japan by the time FFx or FF7, FF8 were released. 

Noo,ps4  is selling  more then ps3

But at what point in time...ps4 is selling good worldwide...but maybe not as much as sony has had in the past in japan. Total sales is around 3.8 and was 2.6mill the beggining of this year...



squibbfire on 08 December 2016

Something else to consider..

It’s official: Japan’s population is dramatically shrinking
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/02/26/its-official-japans-population-is-drastically-shrinking/?utm_term=.251cc78416d3



Jranation on 08 December 2016

Thankyou to Tak13 from posting this on the MC thread!

01. / 00. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) - 1.501.964 / NEW

|System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD |
| PS3 | 237.086 | 75.086 | 1.654.012 | 4.276.480 |



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vivster on 08 December 2016

Ratios don't mean anything. That ratio would've been much higher 2 years ago and will be significantly lower in 2 years.



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vivster on 08 December 2016
squibbfire said:
Something else to consider..

It’s official: Japan’s population is dramatically shrinking
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/02/26/its-official-japans-population-is-drastically-shrinking/?utm_term=.251cc78416d3

Ok, now I know it's a joke thread.



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Barkley on 08 December 2016
squibbfire said:
Something else to consider..

It’s official: Japan’s population is dramatically shrinking
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/02/26/its-official-japans-population-is-drastically-shrinking/?utm_term=.251cc78416d3

I don't think it matters what Japan's Population as, only PS4 Installbase :P.

squibbfire said:
xl-klaudkil said:

Noo,ps4  is selling  more then ps3

But at what point in time...ps4 is selling good worldwide...but maybe not as much as sony has had in the past in japan. Total sales is around 3.8 and was 2.6mill the beggining of this year...

PS4 has outsold PS3 launch aligned in Japan now. http://www.vgchartz.com/article/266719/ps4-vs-ps3-in-japanvgchartz-gap-chartsoctober-2016-update/



squibbfire on 08 December 2016
vivster said:

Ratios don't mean anything. That ratio would've been much higher 2 years ago and will be significantly lower in 2 years.

guess what...

FFXV is gonna sell more next....and the next week after....and its gonna break more records....and people will be happy...



ABizzel1 on 08 December 2016

I agree it's a huge overreaction, especially if the game is doing well in western markets. People are comparing it to FF13 which was average, but did very well, but the problem with that was people were unaware / didn't believe it / or just flat out bought 13 anyway and once they played it had a bad taste in their mouth. And instead of Square fixing it with a new game, they took the easy route and made 2 more sequels.

It wasn't just FF13, it was the sequels as well sales tanked after that.

FF13 : 1.5m JP week 1
FF13-2: 540k JP week 1
FF13-3: 285k JP week 1

FF15: 690k week 1

If anything this is a huge gain from were the franchise was headed.

FF15 has sold more in it's first week than FF 13-3 has sold in it's lifetime already in JP, and by next week it should also pass 13-2 lifetime sales in JP as well.

People are just trying to bash 15 by comparing it directly to 13 sales, but there was a ton of hype for 13 until the actual game came out. Week 1 numbers were huge, but the drop off afterwards was incredibly hard.

See if the same happens to FF 15.

FF 13-2 struggled to break 1m global in week 1 sales. FF 13-3 struggled to break 1m global in lifetime sales.

So yeah there was a huge decline beforehand.