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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 has beaten the SNES in Sales (NES next target)

Kerotan on 09 December 2016
pray4mojo said:
Kerotan said:

It's NES next.  Then 3DS,  psp,  360, PS3, Wii,  ps1. I think it will be the third best selling console ever behind the ps2 and DS. 

I don't lump handhelds and consoles together, so I think it'll end up behind PS2, PS1 and Wii for forth place. I don't see it getting 100 million in sales. 

I'll start cooking thr crow!  Ps4 will pass 100m. 



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pray4mojo on 09 December 2016
Kerotan said:
pray4mojo said:

I don't lump handhelds and consoles together, so I think it'll end up behind PS2, PS1 and Wii for forth place. I don't see it getting 100 million in sales. 

I'll start cooking thr crow!  Ps4 will pass 100m. 

If it does, that's fine. I don't really care how much it sells. But that's my predicition. Feel free to bookmark it lol.



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pray4mojo on 09 December 2016
CGI-Quality said:
pray4mojo said:

If it does, that's fine. I don't really care how much it sells. But that's my predicition. Feel free to bookmark it lol.

Then you must be expecting a major drop off. It'll end the year no lower than 52 million (in just three years - one of the fastest of all time). With this thing likely to sell for, at least, another five, missing at least 48 million more means the drop off will be substantial. That's never happened to a PlayStation before, so what leads you to this conclusion now?

I'm basing it on two things. The sales arch and the fact that we're entering year four of a (likely) 6 year cycle. The PS2, in year three, peaked. The PS4 just spent it's third year and it's barely half way to 100 million. Traditional sales data shows that sales will decline each year going forward. So, basic logic says that it's probably not going to get there before the next console comes out. This means that in order to sell 100 million units, it's going to have to sell 15-25 million while PS5 is out, and that is something we just don't see anymore in console gaming. 

The math just isn't there. I could be wrong though. We'll see.



maxleresistant on 09 December 2016

it would be nice to have real comparisons, to be frank I'm wondering how the market is going.

We need precise comparison, not PS4 agains One, but PS4 VS PS3 VS PS2.
Also One VS 360.
The market is clearly in recession because of Nintendo screwing up this gen, but I would like to know if there is more than that.
Because besides companies telling us "we sell a lot" we don't have real proof that the market is doing well.



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Nymeria on 09 December 2016

For me the PS1 is the benchmark for it to beat. I could see it finishing 100-120 range depending on when PS5 launches.



JRPGfan on 09 December 2016
pray4mojo said:
CGI-Quality said:

Then you must be expecting a major drop off. It'll end the year no lower than 52 million (in just three years - one of the fastest of all time). With this thing likely to sell for, at least, another five, missing at least 48 million more means the drop off will be substantial. That's never happened to a PlayStation before, so what leads you to this conclusion now?

I'm basing it on two things. The sales arch and the fact that we're entering year four of a (likely) 6 year cycle. The PS2, in year three, peaked. The PS4 just spent it's third year and it's barely half way to 100 million. Traditional sales data shows that sales will decline each year going forward. So, basic logic says that it's probably not going to get there before the next console comes out. This means that in order to sell 100 million units, it's going to have to sell 15-25 million while PS5 is out, and that is something we just don't see anymore in console gaming. 

The math just isn't there. I could be wrong though. We'll see.

This gen had mid way upgrades to extende things abit. And 2016 didnt have a full year, with slim&pro... 2017 will.

Key games for PS4 havnt seen the light of day, that will push console sales. Theres still options for price's to go lower.

Sometimes just looking at "sales trends from the past" isnt the best way to go about things... the PS4 is a differnt situation.

Watch 2017 be the peak :)



squibbfire on 09 December 2016

Yeah i agree....PS4 exclusives do push sales...people buy console before and after these exclusives are released.



squibbfire on 09 December 2016

lol people dont realize that Ps3 still outsold xbox 360...in the last year of two of its life...heck its still selling now!...360s not so much....ps4 has a loong rich life ahead of itself....



pray4mojo on 09 December 2016
CGI-Quality said:
pray4mojo said:

I'm basing it on two things. The sales arch and the fact that we're entering year four of a (likely) 6 year cycle. The PS2, in year three, peaked. The PS4 just spent it's third year and it's barely half way to 100 million. Traditional sales data shows that sales will decline each year going forward. So, basic logic says that it's probably not going to get there before the next console comes out. This means that in order to sell 100 million units, it's going to have to sell 15-25 million while PS5 is out, and that is something we just don't see anymore in console gaming. 

The math just isn't there. I could be wrong though. We'll see.

The math is very much there, especially considering that the PS4 has ket up with the PS2 and just saw the release of two key systems. It'll also be in more markets than the PS2 was.

Nothing suggests that sort of decline at this time. It's wishful thinking, at best.

Nothing suggests that sort of decline... apart from every major home console ever released. Unless PS4 manages to be the first console in history to keep it's first three year pace for almost 6 straight years, it's not going to happen. 

In the first three years after the PS3 launched, the PS2 sold roughly 35 million units. The PS3 has managed to sell 13 in comparison. The PS4 is going to have to either be the first console in history to keep it's first three year sales level for 5-6 years, or it's going to have to sell at PS2 levels post PS5. Either way, that's asking alot.