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Teeqoz said:
spemanig said:
Do we have numbers on what those expectations were?

Shuhei himself nor the interviewer didn't ever mention anything about expectations in relation to PSVR, the interviewer just asked if he could give a general idea as to how it's doing and Shuhei answered that it's sold out basically everywhere.

Then, to be brutally honest, "exceding expectations" and "selling out" doesn't mean much because those expectations and the shipment numbers could have been unimpressive to begin with.

EDIT: Misunderstood your reply.



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spemanig said:
Teeqoz said:

Shuhei himself nor the interviewer didn't ever mention anything about expectations in relation to PSVR, the interviewer just asked if he could give a general idea as to how it's doing and Shuhei answered that it's sold out basically everywhere.

Then to be brutally honest, "exceding expectations" and "selling out" doesn't mean much, because those expectations and the shipment numbers could have been unimpressive to begin with.

I didn't say otherwise, just passing on the information in the article. As I said, Shuhei Yoshida didn't even say it was "exceeding expectations". Word for word he said "Well, it's selling out pretty much everywhere." And you are right. There's not much to make of that. It's pretty much just a small factual statement, and we can't gauge demand or numbers from that at all, and it's hard to day anything positive or negative. I think it's pretty natural that Sony haven't been shouting their expectations over the rooftops for a brand new product like this where they don't know fully what to expect.



Teeqoz said:
spemanig said:

Then to be brutally honest, "exceding expectations" and "selling out" doesn't mean much, because those expectations and the shipment numbers could have been unimpressive to begin with.

I didn't say otherwise, just passing on the information in the article. As I said, Shuhei Yoshida didn't even say it was "exceeding expectations". Word for word he said "Well, it's selling out pretty much everywhere." And you are right. There's not much to make of that. It's pretty much just a small factual statement, and we can't gauge demand from it at all.

Yeah, I amended my post because I misread your reply.



PSVR selling out everywhere. Superb news. PS4 pro sold out in many regions. Again superb news.



Rereading the OP, Shuhei never even explicitely states that the PS4 Pro exceeded expectations. The interviewer asks "Is the PS4 Pro meeting your sales expectations, OR even exceeding them?" When Shuhei responds with "Yes, it's responding very well," that could have easily just been in response to meeting expectations as opposed to exceeding them.

So the thread title itself is what's misleading. Yoshida never said that either of the two pieces of hardware had exceeded sales expectations. It can't even be argued that it was implied.

EDIT: Actually, I think that it can be implied that the Pro exceeded sales expectations with the line "I think that's driving a larger demand than we had anticipated," so I take that back.



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spemanig said:

Rereading the OP, Shuhei never even explicitely states that the PS4 Pro exceeded expectations. The interviewer asks "Is the PS4 Pro meeting your sales expectations, OR even exceeding them?" When Shuhei responds with "Yes, it's responding very well," that could have easily just been in response to meeting expectations as opposed to exceeding them.

So the thread title itself is what's misleading. Yoshida never said that either of the two pieces of hardware had exceeded sales expectations. It can't even be argued that it was implied.

He does say "I think that's driving a larger demand than we had anticipated" which imo basically means "demand exceeded our expectations".

Damn, why am I wasting time analysing such non-statements. I should go to sleep. It's 04:38 AM and I have school at 08:15... wtf am I doing



Teeqoz said:
spemanig said:

Rereading the OP, Shuhei never even explicitely states that the PS4 Pro exceeded expectations. The interviewer asks "Is the PS4 Pro meeting your sales expectations, OR even exceeding them?" When Shuhei responds with "Yes, it's responding very well," that could have easily just been in response to meeting expectations as opposed to exceeding them.

So the thread title itself is what's misleading. Yoshida never said that either of the two pieces of hardware had exceeded sales expectations. It can't even be argued that it was implied.

He does say "I think that's driving a larger demand than we had anticipated" which imo basically means "demand exceeded our expectations".

Damn, why am I wasting time analysing such non-statements. I should go to sleep. It's 04:38 AM and I have school at 08:15... wtf am I doing

Yeah lmao I went back and corrected myself again right before I saw this!



small44 said:
Hard number please.

I concur. Some numbers would be nice.



Ruler said:

DS: The PS4 Pro appears to have had a very successful launch. Reports claim PlayStation sales in the UK have tripled and that it outsold Xbox in the US on Black Friday. Is the PS4 Pro meeting your sales expectations, or even exceeding them?

SY: Yes, it's selling very well. We were hoping that people who purchased a PS4 day one would upgrade to PS4 Pro, and people who have a 4K TV would see it as their console of choice.

We need more time to analyse the situation, but it seems that more people who are buying PS4 for the first time are choosing PS4 Pro. I think that's driving a larger demand than we had anticipated. In many markets it's sold out and hard to find.

 

DS: Does this open the door for more incremental hardware updates?

SY: PS4 Pro is an incremental update from a hardware standpoint, but making PS4 Pro is not an easy thing to do. We have complete compatibility; it is part of the PS4 Ecosystem. So the system is very carefully designed to maintain that one community between the standard PS4 and PS4 Pro. So we don't talk about future plans, but doing something like PS4 Pro takes a lot of effort. We are very happy with PS4 Pro, and we're happy with the reaction and analysis of the games that have already come out, analysed by lots of professional tech-driven media. So you can't just talk about numbers, you really have to see the games that are designed to work well on PS4 Pro to see the value of it.

DS: Talking of numbers, you haven't released sales figures for PSVR yet. Why is that?

SY: It's not my role to make that decision.

DS: Are you able to give a broad indication of whether PSVR has met expectations?

SY: Well, it's selling out pretty much everywhere.

DS: What have you made to its reception?

SY: Very, very strong. I couldn't be happier about the situation. I was hoping that when we launched PSVR there would be games that people could enjoy and games that took advantage of VR. I was anticipating that it would take some time for developers to experiment and understand the best uses for VR. I still believe that's the case, but even the games which have already come out – some of them are amazing to play on PSVR. So I'm very happy, and people are continuing to purchase more games for the system, so that's a very good sign.

 

DS: Is there anything that's surprised you about the way people are using it? Have you learned anything yet?

SY: What was surprising was the amount of time that people are spending in VR. It's kind of a strange thing to say, but because VR games can be intense, I was anticipating that people would spend some time, but not many hours in VR. But looking at the data, people are spending many hours on the system every day. So that's a great thing to know.

 

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/ps4/feature/a816143/playstation-boss-talks-ps4-pro-ps-vr-and-super-mario-run-rivals/

I hope it sells very well, I want to try it someday. PSVR I mean...



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

Teh Chartz has taught me that no numbers = sales must be bad. Maybe they just shipped a very small amount of VR's.