"When you talk to me about Scorpio, the term I use about the architecture isn’t the six teraflops which is obviously what we’ve announced, it’s balance. Really what it is, is you want a platform that is balanced between memory bandwidth, GPU power, you know, your ability to move memory and [an] amount of memory around in many ways is more inhibiting to the performance of your game than absolute teraflops on any one of the individual pieces, and when we designed Scorpio we really thought about this balanced rig that could come together at a price-point. Like, I want Scorpio to be at a console price-point, I’m not trying to go and compete with a high-end rig. And because we’re building one spec, we’re able to look at the balance between all the components and make sure that it’s something we really hit that matters to consumers and gamers."

http://wccftech.com/scorpio-isnt-trying-compete-high-end/

Good to hear.

Phil knows that the console can not be too expensive. 

I think at a maximum, it will cost $450. Phil knows they gotta hit the pricing right and that Sony can reduce the price of the Pro when the Scorpio launches so I don't think we will see it be anymore than $450.

Funny how he changed his tune from a few months ago "Premium performance for premium price".
Then they were pushing fantasy to detract from Sony's reality, now more realistic sales concerns.
IMHO it will end up $100 above Pro's price, or slightly less, Sony not seeming inclined for aggressive drop.
MS will have CPU advantage, where Pro is held back by Jaguar not for cost concerns but compatability.
So MS will get better performance for cost there, proportionately. GPU cores and RAM will just cost.

Whatever the price the consumer has almost a year to save up for it. We waste wayyyyyy more than that in a year. Hopefully it'll be around $450-500. That i wouldn't mind

I think you have to make a console very attractive to justify it being more than $500, so I think that will be the absolute limit. $450 though would be my guess.

hope it has the zen designed by jim keller

Interesting.

I am still more than likely going to get the scorpio to support higher end consoles, but I was hoping they would continue with the more premium marketing. My dream is a future where we have high end consoles that can compete with or beat the best single GPU PC's on the market. A $999.99 console with a high end APU sporting a higher end CPU/GPU combo would be ideal. The fact that we have no option in the high end gaming market than PC and Windows is what I have been fighting all along.

There should be no issue for Sony or Microsoft building $1000 high end consoles that only end up with maybe 5 million users. As long as they still offer $200 variations with lesser CPU/GPU power on the same architecture, then development and scaling will not be an issue. We are never going to have the optimization we saw in the PS2 and before era again. That fact that games come to so many platforms has killed that. We should now have broader platforms with power ranges from cheap to enthusiast. We won't get the same bang for our buck, but we will still have unified platforms with highly optimized OS's and unified online networks.

Like I said, I am getting a Scorpik to support higher end consoles and a wider range of console products within a platform. I just hope they don't continue to hang out in this cheaper space, and they do finally give consumers an option outside of windows and pc for high end home computing.

With the way the market is going, that won't be happening any time soon or at all with how technology keeps improving each year. You'd have to have a refresh system every few months if your eally wanted to stay at the higest premium end.

PC's won't be dying and consoles won't be ruling over every single environment in the world. 

It is not just the price which is critical, it is also about games that support the new capabilities. Sony went for compatibility but what really surprised me is the seemingly small effort needed to patch older games to use the Pro features, which can truly make a difference. For example Shadow of Mordor is so much better on Pro.

From the sound of that the CPU will be beastly as well. If true I think the difference between PS4pro and Scorpio will be large and noticeable. I think there is one simple reason for this happening. Sony see's their machine as a mid gen console, that will be replaced in 2019 or so by the ps5. While MS has a different view. They don't want to do gens anymore. They want all there machines backwards and forwards comptible. Games to be developed on 2 systems at a time.

Xbox one + Scorpio then after a few years(probably 3ish) Xbox one will no longer get game development with it now being Scorpio + scorpio2. At Scorpio 2 point while games will no longer be made on the standard X1, Scorpio2 will stillgames like halo 5 that are Xbox one games(maybe even 360 games that are backwards compatible).
Any way all this means PS4pro only needs to last for 2-4 years. While Scorpio needs to stack up in 6yrs or longer.

This bit of news also tells me that the Scorpio won't be priced above 500$. At that price wouldn't sell a whole lot, but if the CPU is as good as the gpu they might not be able to sell it at less than 450$.