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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Laura Kate Dale: Nintendo Switch Dock Increases Performance, Not Via Extra Hardware

numberwang on 06 December 2016

So I take it there is a low rpm fan in the tablet and a higher rpm fan in the dock? It does seem nice to get 1080p confirmed for the tele screen.



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Barkley on 06 December 2016
JEMC said:
Like Yuri, I'm skeptical about the claim that the dock will allow the games to be run at 1080p. 1080p has more than twice the pixels of 720p, way to much for a simple increase in the speed of the Switch processor.

It's not so much a power issue as a display issue. No matter how demanding the game the Handheld can only ever display at 720p (the display resolution of the screen). So it doesn't matter if the dock literally does nothing in terms of power, it still makes running the games at 1080p possible.

Like you I don't think the power difference when docked will be significant enough to make a game that barely runs at 720p on handheld suddenly run at 1080p fine when docked. The difference in resolution will mostly be simply because the Switch's own screen is only 720p.



Miyamotoo on 06 December 2016
JEMC said:
Like Yuri, I'm skeptical about the claim that the dock will allow the games to be run at 1080p. 1080p has more than twice the pixels of 720p, way to much for a simple increase in the speed of the Switch processor.

It makes more sense that the game is upscaled to FullHD and the increased power that the dock could bring is used to add some extra effects and/or better AA to improve the image quality on the TV.

In any case, we'll know for sure in about a month (I hope!).

Actually most sense makes that games running at 1080p but they are downscaled to 720p just in tablet mode.

 

 

Barkley said:
JEMC said:
Like Yuri, I'm skeptical about the claim that the dock will allow the games to be run at 1080p. 1080p has more than twice the pixels of 720p, way to much for a simple increase in the speed of the Switch processor.

It's not so much a power issue as a display issue. No matter how demanding the game the Handheld can only ever display at 720p (the display resolution of the screen). So it doesn't matter if the dock literally does nothing in terms of power, it still makes running the games at 1080p possible.

Like you I don't think the power difference when docked will be significant enough to make a game that barely runs at 720p on handheld suddenly run at 1080p fine when docked. The difference in resolution will mostly be simply because the Switch's own screen is only 720p.

Basically this, games running at 1080p but they are downscaled to 720p just in tablet mode because 720p screen and battery life.



Barkley on 06 December 2016
Miyamotoo said:

Basically this, games running at 1080p but they are downscaled to 720p just in tablet mode because 720p screen and battery life.

You should use run at 720p or rendered at 720p, instead of downscaled.

Downscaled is equivelent to supersampling, meaning the game would still be rendered at 1080p and would use just as much performance and battery.

But I understand what you mean. :P



JRPGfan on 06 December 2016

Glass half full? Glass half empty?

This is just the chip running full speed when its docked (can use as much power as it wants) vs when its not docked (battery life issues).

Also hasnt everyone been saying that would be what happend, all along?



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 06 December 2016
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Hmm its interesting. I will remain skeptical, specially the performance boost of jumping from 720p to 1080p unless its not universal. It makes sense that the dock will increase the power but that much sounds a little too much...

Her thing also suggests that there are multiple fans built into the switch and the dock itself will have another one. So like 2 fans in the Switch and 1 in the dock? I don't think I have ever seen a tablet with more than one fan.

But I am happy to be wrong once a while though.

Actually it doesn't need to make boost performance from 720p to 1080p, Switch can native run games at 1080p but downscaling to 720p in handheld mode with lower clocs and less power required, but in dock mode running 1080p native at full clock without problem with power supply.

Maybe we could have one fan in Switch itself but I doubt, certainly will not be two fans in Switch itself.

And how do you know it can when the more powerful x1 cant run most games at 1080p. Unless you mean that its not universal and only some games will run at 1080p.



                  

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JRPGfan on 06 December 2016
Nuvendil said:
So it works like a laptop power supply but with a small fan? Which is what 99% of people assumed anyway :P

^ this. Everyone was saying thats what made sense and how it would most likely be.



JRPGfan on 06 December 2016
Captain_Yuri said:
Miyamotoo said:

And how do you know it can when the more powerful x1 cant run most games at 1080p. Unless you mean that its not universal and only some games will run at 1080p.

Think he means Nintendo games, will most likely run 1080p when docked, and 720p when not.

You really shouldnt assume 3rd party multiplat games, when docked are able to hit 1080p, because its weaker than a Xbox One.



WagnerPaiva on 06 December 2016

Oh brother, could we freeze ourselves till the official event in january please? Cryogenics seem to be blooming in Russia, I will look for a ticket.



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jason1637 on 06 December 2016

Will be great to have games running at 1080p.