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Swordmasterman said:
Egelo said:

lol no.  China is no miltary match they are not getting into a cold war with the US, Soviets did casuse thast all they had.  

China US will clash is coming, better it be now and a trade war.  Will balance out the world.  Letting them go uninterupted out of some patetic fear is well pathetic.

China is very powerful, and its probably that Russia will follow them rather than the USA.

How can a country like China, with so many Tanks, Ships, Soldiers and hundreds of Nuclear weapons ,be considered not strong enought?

No it really is not, not yet.  

And not a single Ruski will die for or follow China, they are no allies and are reluctant acquaintances at best often.  They view each other as competition, neither a superpower yet a power at each others doorstep.  

Lacks actual war experience lacks bases beyond its borders lacking in technology.  Their geo position is not so great sharing near proximity to Russia India Japan,  3 competing powers.   



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Slice like a dick measuring contest about who can wreck the world the quickest.

I don't mind them having issues with another, but I would find it far more enjoyable if they done it properly in a ring with their fists, elbows and legs than with human, animal and planet life. They could even make it PPV and bring in some decent money.



UnderstatedCornHole said:
JRPGfan said:

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein.

Einstein shoule have stuck to academia.



Fei-Hung said:
Slice like a dick measuring contest about who can wreck the world the quickest.

I don't mind them having issues with another, but I would find it far more enjoyable if they done it properly in a ring with their fists, elbows and legs than with human, animal and planet life. They could even make it PPV and bring in some decent money.

or a trade war and not a shooting war.  

Better free coverage on all news networks and media then old overpriced obsolete ppv.  



Egelo said:
Swordmasterman said:

China is very powerful, and its probably that Russia will follow them rather than the USA.

How can a country like China, with so many Tanks, Ships, Soldiers and hundreds of Nuclear weapons ,be considered not strong enought?

No it really is not, not yet.  

And not a single Ruski will die for or follow China, they are no allies and are reluctant acquaintances at best often.  They view each other as competition, neither a superpower yet a power at each others doorstep.  

Lacks actual war experience lacks bases beyond its borders lacking in technology.  Their geo position is not so great sharing near proximity to Russia India Japan,  3 competing powers.   

Keeping in mind, the US still hasn't defeated cave dwelling Taliban after 15 years and had everything they could handle and then some with jungle faring Vietnemese. 

Russia wouldn't openly ally with China, but I think behind the scenes they probably would. US being bogged down in war with China would be great for Russia, they could "quietly" move in Eastern Europe and no one would be able to raise much of a stink, sit back and wait for both parties to weaken/destroy each other and reap the benefits. 



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Of course it isn't. How bad it is remains to be seen, but it's definitely not wise either.



shikamaru317 said:

China is overreacting when it comes to the phone call.

As for rather it is wise to anger them, I don't think it matters all that much. It's not like they're going to go to war over this, and even if they did, Trump and Putin seem to have a better relationship than Jinping and Putin have, and it would be unwise for China to get into a fight with 2 other superpowers at once. 

Putin doesn't really give two shits about Trump, he is manipulating him to his own ends. He's smart. 

Russia would love a war between China/US ... if such a war was devastating enough who would be left as the world's super power? Take a wild guess. 

Re-establishing the global dominance of Russia with a weakened/potentially crippled America, a devastated China, and an impotent Germany ... it would be the greatest triumph imaginable for the Soviet block, the ultimate revenge for the fall of the USSR which Putin has said is the greatest tragedy in modern history. 



shikamaru317 said:

China is overreacting when it comes to the phone call.

As for rather it is wise to anger them, I don't think it matters all that much. It's not like they're going to go to war over this, and even if they did, Trump and Putin seem to have a better relationship than Jinping and Putin have, and it would be unwise for China to get into a fight with 2 other superpowers at once. 

Trump is too agressive in the internet. I hope that his tweets won't be taken  by other nations.



Let them get pissed off over Trump ...

China is deep down scared as shit about Trump because their afraid he's going to take away their profits ...

People call out Trump being blind on Russian imperialism (and somewhat rightfully so) but does that mean we're supposed to be blind on China's imperialism for doing the same things to it's neighbors like claiming Taiwan for itself since it didn't officially declare it's own independence and trying to aggressively claim the South china Sea for itself ?



Egelo said:
SvennoJ said:

$100? A Vitamix blender, made in the US, $599. Walmart blender, made in China, $13.47
A PS4 pro made in the US would be a lot more than $100 extra.

My Bimmer cost me 50k, i wouldnt buy a chinese car for 10k.  You seem to be avoiding that quality costs.  

orly 

https://9to5mac.com/2016/06/13/iphone-made-in-usa-cost/

no wonder apple and foxcon are contemplation moving iphone production to US.  

 

That's not the whole picture
This means that assuming all other costs stayed the same
Building the plants, retooling the plants, powering the plants, securing the plants, insuring the plants, will all cost a lot more.

Anyway building it in the USA doesn't mean it will be of higher quality. If you want higher quality too the price will raise a lot more.