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Pokémon X/Y versus Pokémon Sun/Moon

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Which generation do you prefer?

Pokémon X/Y 15 9.74%
 
Pokémon Sun/Moon 90 58.44%
 
See results 49 31.82%
 
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Sun/Moon were easily the better game to me. X/Y are the worst games to in the Pokemon series to me and it's not even close, meanwhile, Sun/Moon were the best Pokemon games to me since Emerald.



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Sun and Moon have a much better singleplayer, plot, and it's much more interesting (no gyms, islands, riding Pokemon). Overall is also a better game.

But I'll say XY has better gameplay. Mega-evolution (as silly as it was) changed gameplay much more, and in a better way, than Z-moves. EV training (Horde Battles > Unfair double battles) was much easier in XY. Speaking of which, while I think Totem Pokemon are a worthy substitue of Gym Leaders (as a challenge), calling for help is a bad mechanic. Specially when you're trying to catch Pokemon.

Most of my complaints come from the competitive side of things, which GameFreak tried to shake up with some new abilities and Pokemon, but in the end they made some annoying mechanics and a super unbalanced move. Like I said though, Sun and Moon are better overall, since most of the gameplay is still Pokemon...



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Darwinianevolution said:
Alkibiádēs said:

What? Killing everyone that isn't part of his little group because they're not beautiful is a terrible story that makes no sense. That was easily one of the worst parts of X and Y for me.

Sun/Moon's story is better than X/Y, but only marginally so (the only big flaw Y/Y's story has compared to S/M's is the weakest team in existence), but I feel X/Y told it better. Sun/Moon starts with a very interesting intro, then nothing really happens until Lillie gets kidnapped. After that, the story unfolds way faster than X/Y, which I think is an error in pacing. At the very least we know that a story is unfolding in X/Y from begginning to end, with way better progression. Plus, the ultrabeasts are too vague a threat compared to Team Flare's killer laser.

Sun and Moon have something going for it though: Actual characters. Heck, as a silent character, Sun and Moon's protagonist is more interesting than the whole cast of XY.



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Slarvax said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Sun/Moon's story is better than X/Y, but only marginally so (the only big flaw Y/Y's story has compared to S/M's is the weakest team in existence), but I feel X/Y told it better. Sun/Moon starts with a very interesting intro, then nothing really happens until Lillie gets kidnapped. After that, the story unfolds way faster than X/Y, which I think is an error in pacing. At the very least we know that a story is unfolding in X/Y from begginning to end, with way better progression. Plus, the ultrabeasts are too vague a threat compared to Team Flare's killer laser.

Sun and Moon have something going for it though: Actual characters. Heck, as a silent character, Sun and Moon's protagonist is more interesting than the whole cast of XY.

Hau alone undermines that satatement. Hau alone is worse than the whole cast of the whole franchise. 



Jpcc86 said:
Slarvax said:

Sun and Moon have something going for it though: Actual characters. Heck, as a silent character, Sun and Moon's protagonist is more interesting than the whole cast of XY.

Hau alone undermines that satatement. Hau alone is worse than the whole cast of the whole franchise. 

I feel like Hau was supposed to be the comedy relief of the game, but he was not funny enough to fill that role, plus he was wayyyy too happy in moments when he should't have been. The player character is funnier, even if it is just because he kept one expression throughout the whole game.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Jpcc86 said:

Hau alone undermines that satatement. Hau alone is worse than the whole cast of the whole franchise. 

I feel like Hau was supposed to be the comedy relief of the game, but he was not funny enough to fill that role, plus he was wayyyy too happy in moments when he should't have been. The player character is funnier, even if it is just because he kept one expression throughout the whole game.

I don't particularly think theres been good rival/friends in the franchise since gold/silver. The whole cast of XY was pretty forgettable. But no one got on my nerves more than Hau. He comes off as annoying, not really funny in the least. Loved Lillie and Gladeon tho. 



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Jpcc86 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I feel like Hau was supposed to be the comedy relief of the game, but he was not funny enough to fill that role, plus he was wayyyy too happy in moments when he should't have been. The player character is funnier, even if it is just because he kept one expression throughout the whole game.

I don't particularly think theres been good rival/friends in the franchise since gold/silver. The whole cast of XY was pretty forgettable. But no one got on my nerves more than Hau. He comes off as annoying, not really funny in the least. Loved Lillie and Gladeon tho. 

I agree with the lack of good rivals, but I have to make a really big exception in the case of N in Black/White. That was a fantastic foil and anti-hero. Sun/Moon cast is better in general than X/Y, with the exception of AZ, which is a great character.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Alkibiádēs said:

What? Killing everyone that isn't part of his little group because they're not beautiful is a terrible story that makes no sense. That was easily one of the worst parts of X and Y for me.

Sun/Moon's story is better than X/Y, but only marginally so (the only big flaw Y/Y's story has compared to S/M's is the weakest team in existence), but I feel X/Y told it better. Sun/Moon starts with a very interesting intro, then nothing really happens until Lillie gets kidnapped. After that, the story unfolds way faster than X/Y, which I think is an error in pacing. At the very least we know that a story is unfolding in X/Y from begginning to end, with way better progression. Plus, the ultrabeasts are too vague a threat compared to Team Flare's killer laser.

I do agree that they didn't convey the threats of the Ultra Beasts well at all, big disappointment for me. I found it annoying that the Ultra Beasts were reduced to the status of random encounters in the wild... And Sun and Moon had so many cutscenes, but no cutscene that shows Ultra Beasts threatening other people? That's my only letdown with the story basically.



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Alkibiádēs said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Sun/Moon's story is better than X/Y, but only marginally so (the only big flaw Y/Y's story has compared to S/M's is the weakest team in existence), but I feel X/Y told it better. Sun/Moon starts with a very interesting intro, then nothing really happens until Lillie gets kidnapped. After that, the story unfolds way faster than X/Y, which I think is an error in pacing. At the very least we know that a story is unfolding in X/Y from begginning to end, with way better progression. Plus, the ultrabeasts are too vague a threat compared to Team Flare's killer laser.

I do agree that they didn't convey the threats of the Ultra Beasts well at all, big disappointment for me. I found it annoying that the Ultra Beasts were reduced to the status of random encounters in the wild... And Sun and Moon had so many cutscenes, but no cutscene that shows Ultra Beasts threatening other people? That's my only letdown with the story basically.

We have that amazing cutscene where the Ultrabeast attacks the kahuna and Tapu Koko has to fight it, and then... nothing really like that. The fight against corrupted Lusamine was also a big letdown. Once again, we get a really impressive cutscene showing us the fusion between her and the UB, and I was thinking "Am I going to have to fight a human-pokemon hybrid? This is great, this looks something out of a Shin Megami Tensei game or the sort!" and then she just uses her pokemon team. Then why did you fuse at all!? What's the point? Why did you tease us like that?.



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