I don't think he did a bad job. He steered the country through the great recession. Unemployment is down and the economy is up. Millions of americans are now insured and he managed this with a congress and senate who tried to stop him at every turn. Their sole mission was to make him a one term president and instead he got 2 terms and did a fine job of it. I think the country would be in far better shape if they would have worked with him in the first place instead of being the party of no.

Dems are against it because Republicans would use that law and saddle it down with costs and try to pile on restrictions on who can have an ID and who can't to try to lock out certain demographics (take a wild guess which one specifically) from getting those IDs. 

Make the IDs free, make them easy to get, and there's no reason why it wouldn't be a boon to Democratic voting blocks. 

While we're at it, I think felons who have served their time being barred from vote is also bullshit. There was a woman for example who wrote a couple of cheques that bounced (she wrote them just before she lost her job assuming she had a paycheque coming) and was convicted. She served her time. But now she can't vote because of her record. 

Millions and millions of black voters are disenfranchised from voting because they have criminal records. If you've served your time IMO you have the right to vote. 

It's actually the one big advantage Trump has is he's inheriting a much healthier situation from Obama than Obama did from the trainwreck Bush II left him with the economic collapse of 2008 and Iraq and Afghtanistan both mired in huge problems. 

The US economy relatively is healthy. Could it be better, sure, but you look globally and pretty much no one is doing as well as the US is, even China is starting to struggle. 

ISIS yes is a problem, but they are already well on their way to defeat being pushed back out of Syria all over the place. Just a matter of time there. 

Same with Clinton he left Bush II with a great situation. It's usually Republicans at least in the modern era that leave an incumbent Democrat president with a very shitty situation that they end up turning around. 

Yeah well he is already screwing it up by talking with the Taiwanese president against China's wishes. They already filed a formal complaint. We'll have to see how long it takes before he drags us into a war with China because of his idiocy and his inability to stop tweeting.

The Left still yammers on about "Russian hackers", without a shred of evidence.  Furthermore, the media treats it seriously, when they write an article about Jill Stein blustering about Russians, they don't preface it with "debunked claims" or "unfounded", while they fell all over themselves to do that after Trump's recent tweet about illegal immigrants voting.

You tell me what's more plausible: illegal aliens having voted in November's presidential election, or Russians in Moscow hacking non-Internet-connected voting machines to make Donald Trump win Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

You misunderstand. Dems aren't against IDs because of a "long list of BS". They're against it because Republicans abuse the system and disenfranchise many voters. Republicans very much so suppress the vote. Hell, Trump got mad that that county in Nevada kept their polls open so "certain groups" would get to vote......."certain groups" that were already in line to vote, waiting to do their civic duty, but the line was so long (because Republicans do things like cut polling hours and polling locations) that the polling hours were closed with several people still in line. 

But that's a different monster when it comes to Republicans suppressing the vote. We're talking about voter ID. So why are Dems against it, if not for a "long list of BS"? How about how Republicans find out what kind of IDs people get, based on race, then whichever ID is mostly used by black people, they make it ineligible to vote. 

Dems would actually be for a national ID. Because it enfranchises all eligible voters. Republicans would be against it, considering they like to find what "types of ID" specific demographics use the most, then make that type not valid to vote. A unilateral system of ID would take away the advantage they have. Also, they'd probably scream "states' rights" because the federal government would be "overreaching in dictating what a state requires for ID". 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/world/europe/prague-russian-hacker.html?_r=0

Well that's weird. I mean the FBI in collaboration with Interpol arrested a Russian hacker in Prague just two days before the US government accused the Russian government of stealing and disclosing emails. Why is the the Russian Embassy demanding for the man to be released? For national security reasons, I think it makes sense not disclose those information yet.

But besides that, whether the news about the election hacking is fake or not, it was a success by weakening Americans trust in democracy. It is the same thing with Trump's suggestion that "millions" of people voted illegally, with no evidence. All this news whether it is fake or not, benefited only Russia.

I'm finding this too in the UK. Obviously Brexit has been a big topic here also being pushed as intelligent remainers and stupid Brexiters.

It's something that comes to frequently and the utter ignorance of some people I talk to in both sides genuinely scares me.

This isn't just an Alt-Right problem as the Guardian would tell you.

People on both sides of the debates have been sold a lot of false truths.

I believe the job market was inevitably going to get better. Its not like Obama really did anything significant to stimulate job creation. He just gets credit for being there while jobs were created.

Many have insurance now because they get it free via wealth distribution while many have to pay higher premiums. Some people have health insureance because they don't want to get hit the penalty/tax. There are reasons its an unpopular law.

They said no to Obama because the right doesn't feel his policies are good for the future of this country. Jobs went up inspite of him, he admits Obamacare is broken by the way. There are some good things I felt Obama did, but the he was able to do the better.

Mmmhmmm... okay buddy...

I believe a simple state ID should be required for voting. I think that's what the average right winger wants but dems are against it for BS reasons.

So the same party that thinks a state ID for voting is a burden for colored people also thinks we should have a national ID to work? Did you actually read the article, left wing groups hate it.