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coolbeans said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

I don't think you've thought this out. Can you be less vague?

Are you trying to say my statement is not true, and If so how do you vote then? Please explain, I'll give you some time to think it over.

Where's the vagueness?

I used the term "facile" to specifically point out your neat little explanation to disregard the complexities of the topic, namely potential voter fraud.  

Now you're being specific. This is what I think is happening. You use my statement, and added your own pretense. Like I said, you did not thought this through. now that is double facepalm worthy.

Just for fun let me make it less facile:

In order to vote, you have to be registered; in order to register, you have to be a citizen. Your name is then entered with all the information on the poll book, which are kept in the voting poll location at which a citizen is registered to vote.

     An illegal immigrant will have to know the name of a registered voter.

     They'll have to know where the citizen is registered to vote.

     They'll have to know where to sign their name to collect the ballot.

They'll have to know all these things, and even have I.D. and hope that they get there before the valid voter does. That is a hard thing to pull off.



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With hillary followers, all you have to do is call them out on their hypocrisy. With Trump supporters...intelligence comes into question. (not for all...but ones as gullible as that lady)



deskpro2k3 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Fair enough, its evident you believe illegals are voting. That's a valid concern.

The lady just shouldnt have given the 3 million figure.

I didn't give an answer, but lets get serious.

Undocumented immigrants have been allowed to vote in some local elections but for no office higher than town council.  

The only way a person can vote twice or more on the same day is if they do what Ann Coulter did. Register to vote in more than one voting district and don’t get caught.

I don't understand why illegal immigrants can vote at all.

Illegals are voting for presidents, its not a debate. So dems tend to avoid that issue by arguing how many. Obvoiously it doesn't concern dems because we assume it benefits them.

The voting twice thing isn't relevant but another problem.



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deskpro2k3 said:

I didn't give an answer, but lets get serious.

Undocumented immigrants have been allowed to vote in some local elections but for no office higher than town council.  

The only way a person can vote twice or more on the same day is if they do what Ann Coulter did. Register to vote in more than one voting district and don’t get caught.

I don't understand why illegal immigrants can vote at all.

Illegals are voting for presidents, its not a debate. So dems tend to avoid that issue by arguing how many. Obvoiously it doesn't concern dems because we assume it benefits them.

The voting twice thing isn't relevant but another problem.

Easy solution -- 

Have a *free* government issued ID for all eligable voters that is made easily available to everyone (for example something that can be had on a weekend without having to wait at the DMV). That way only eligable citizens can vote. 

Simple. Republicans don't want to do this though because they need to supress voter turn out to win elections. 



Another CNN report? Seriously? Watch this and I hope you can see CNNs true face:

Also, the claims that Russia hacked voting machines are the only debunked theories so far.


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I still honestly can't believe this same guy from 2012 who was obsessed with two Twilight stars' romance:

Is in charge of a major country, lol. It also sounds like he had some kind of weird mancrush on Robert Pattinson. 

Like what 66-year-old man is on Twitter talking about stuff like this? lol. 



Soundwave said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I don't understand why illegal immigrants can vote at all.

Illegals are voting for presidents, its not a debate. So dems tend to avoid that issue by arguing how many. Obvoiously it doesn't concern dems because we assume it benefits them.

The voting twice thing isn't relevant but another problem.

Easy solution -- 

Have a *free* government issued ID for all eligable voters that is made easily available to everyone (for example something that can be had on a weekend without having to wait at the DMV). That way only eligable citizens can vote. 

Simple. Republicans don't want to do this though because they need to supress voter turn out to win elections. 

I was with you until the last sentence.

Its actually democrats who are against requiring an ID. https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet

"Research shows, for example, that more than 21 million Americans do not have government-issued photo identification; a disproportionate number of these Americans are low-income, racial and ethnic minorities, and elderly."

I'm all for government providing an ID free, primarily for the poor. But dems have a long list of BS reasons why we shouldn't.



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Soundwave said:

I still honestly can't believe this same guy from 2012 who was obsessed with two Twilight stars' romance:

Is in charge of a major country, lol. It also sounds like he had some kind of weird mancrush on Robert Pattinson. 

Like what 66-year-old man is on Twitter talking about stuff like this? lol. 

None of us who wanted Trump to win are under the illusion he's the ideal candidate, but he is also the opposite of Obama and that's a direction many want. Much of the country has lost faith in democrats and aren't happy with the direction they've been going. Even Obama supporters went Trump this time around.

I have supported republicans for much of my life and I like the moderate direction they're going. Its a logical way to go when dems are turning into a socialist party. We're also getting sick of the social justice nonsense in a country that has already become signficiantly more progressive in a relatively short period.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Soundwave said:

I still honestly can't believe this same guy from 2012 who was obsessed with two Twilight stars' romance:

Is in charge of a major country, lol. It also sounds like he had some kind of weird mancrush on Robert Pattinson. 

Like what 66-year-old man is on Twitter talking about stuff like this? lol. 

None of us who wanted Trump to win are under the illusion he's the ideal candidate, but he is also the opposite of Obama and that's a direction many want. Much of the country has lost faith in democrats and aren't happy with the direction they've been going. Even Obama supporters went Trump this time around.

I have supported republicans for much of my life and I like the moderate direction they're going. Its a logical way to go when dems are turning into a socialist party. We're also getting sick of the social justice nonsense in a country that has already become signficiantly more progressive in a relatively short period.

What do you mean lost faith in democrats? Almost all of Obamas presidency was jam packed with republicans voting against his legislation and being proud of it. A majority of governors are republicans. You are acting like it was Obama and liberals running around socializing everything but pretty much the whole time it has been republicans in power. If you have issue with it then that is where you should be looking.



bunchanumbers said:
Mr Puggsly said:

None of us who wanted Trump to win are under the illusion he's the ideal candidate, but he is also the opposite of Obama and that's a direction many want. Much of the country has lost faith in democrats and aren't happy with the direction they've been going. Even Obama supporters went Trump this time around.

I have supported republicans for much of my life and I like the moderate direction they're going. Its a logical way to go when dems are turning into a socialist party. We're also getting sick of the social justice nonsense in a country that has already become signficiantly more progressive in a relatively short period.

What do you mean lost faith in democrats? Almost all of Obamas presidency was jam packed with republicans voting against his legislation and being proud of it. A majority of governors are republicans. You are acting like it was Obama and liberals running around socializing everything but pretty much the whole time it has been republicans in power. If you have issue with it then that is where you should be looking.

Since I don't like left wing policies in many cases, I'm glad republicans were there to stop him.

I believe things could have been worse.



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