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Has Sony's focus on games trumped their recent missteps??

Yes, it's all about the games 185 88.52%
 
No, give me a 4k Blu ray ... 24 11.48%
 
Total:209

Alot of people(myself included) were having the sentiment that Sony had gotten lazy recently and were getting too comfortable. With Crash Bandicoot, TLOU2, WipeOut Omega Collection, Knack II, God of War 4, Ace Combat 7, Detroit become human, Days Gone, Yakuza 0 and 6, Death Stranding, Gravity Rush II all console/PS4 exclusive I'm feeling Sony has made up for their recent missteps with not allowing full mod support in Skyrim, stripping the PS4 Slim of the optical port, not including an UHD blu ray player in the Pro and not allowing the Pro to boost frame rates on non-Pro-patched titles with unlocked frame rates. I didn't really care for the mod-support but alot of Skyrim/Fallout 4 fans certainly were disappointed but I was perplexed by no UHD blu ray player and Sony restricting non-Pro patched games from benefiting from the boosted GPU/CPU. However with the recent PSX event I'm looking forward to their exclusive line up more than ever before in the 8th generation lifespan. To me it absolutely kills Microsoft's future line up and will give the Switch's first year line up some stiff competition.

Has Sony made up for their recent missteps in your opinion?



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BraLoD said:
Missteps...?
Sony has been on a huge roll ever since they announce the PS4, they are making basically only right decisions after right decisions, and always more games and games and games and games.

I did give some examples of their 'missteps', although you are free to disagree. I'm a HUGEEEE Sony boy but I was disappointed with some of their choices in the last 6 months.



Sony just proved why they are dominating this generation with today's conference. Just incredible. Seems like every year gets better and better for ps4.

Game after game after game.



twintail said:
Guitarguy said:

Has Sony made up for their recent missteps in your opinion?

What missteps? 

Not allowing full mod support in Skyrim/Fallout 4, stripping the PS4 Slim of the optical port, not including an UHD blu ray player in the Pro and not allowing the Pro to boost frame rates on non-Pro-patched titles with unlocked frame rates. No HDR passout for PSVR.



They are focused on gaming and getting the best experiences on their system.... Actually on creating them, they are on a diff level vs Microsoft



 

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Guitarguy said:
twintail said:

What missteps? 

Not allowing full mod support in Skyrim/Fallout 4, stripping the PS4 Slim of the optical port, not including an UHD blu ray player in the Pro and not allowing the Pro to boost frame rates on non-Pro-patched titles with unlocked frame rates. No HDR passout for PSVR.

Didn't they also raise the price of PS+ too?



What misteps?

And sony is still doing what they have always done this gen. Announce exclusives. There focus has never shifted.

this thread just reads more like you have a very short memory.

And the things you mentioned  as misteps aren't what I would call misteps. 

But even if they were, and we can agree that Sony started this gen with a laser focus on GAMES and you are here now saying their focus on games has made up for their misteps then doesnt that mean they never misstepped to begin with?



Haven't seen what you listed as misteps, but surely like their lineup



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bunchanumbers said:
Guitarguy said:

Not allowing full mod support in Skyrim/Fallout 4, stripping the PS4 Slim of the optical port, not including an UHD blu ray player in the Pro and not allowing the Pro to boost frame rates on non-Pro-patched titles with unlocked frame rates. No HDR passout for PSVR.

Didn't they also raise the price of PS+ too?

While we are at it we can add, no external USB support, poor comtroller battery life....etc

Now lets see if that all the afore mentioned things affect its sales or if it still somehow manages to sell more consoles this year than it did last year or like it's always done each year. 



I love that people had to ask "what missteps?" when they are in the very first post.*

I would dispute some of the list:

Slim/Optical Port:
Come on, it's not like this is their only new model, this is the cheap model.
If excluding the port keeps down it's costs, fine, their is a high end model for that.
-> Meh.

Although to be fair, that does reinforce the point about...
UHD-Blu-Ray exclusion even in Pro model:
I don't think it matters that not every customer needs/wants the feature, it just feels cheap to exclude it.
This is the Pro model, and the inclusion of the capacity can't be costing MS more than $10, so just do it.
Arguments about streaming are just arrogance vs. market not interested in that, and honestly is hypocritical:
1) 4K streams quality is closer to standard BD than UHD-BD
2) If downloads > UHD-BD, same goes for games, so no drive is needed, period.
Another reason it should be included is eventually when Sony moves to PS5, there likely will be Pro/5 only games.
Those could benefit from volume size of UHD-BD, except for the fact that at least the current SKU doesn't have it.
-> This *IS* an issue, though if they only excluded it from Slim, I'd be more "meh", it being the cheap model.

Patch needed to benefit from Pro:
This is about covering the cases where devs won't support own product.
Fact is, exposing Pro hardware to games NOT DESIGNED FOR IT could very well cause some sort of bug.
Not in every case, but Sony doesn't want to cause a bug.
For games where it is trivial to benefit from Pro power and no bug situation exists, it's trivial to release patch.
For games where more work needs to be done, those are exactly the ones where potential bugs lurk.
Sony does not want to damage the image of the Pro because devs who won't support their product.
Sony WANTS devs to patch their games for Pro, but if they won't, Sony can't be blamed for lack of support.
-> Meh.

No HDR pass-thru for PSVR:
This does seem to be design oversight that should be fixed with next SKU.
PS4/Pro, PSVR, & HDR TV are a large sum alltogether, and for HDR not work/require workaround is silly.
-> This *IS* an issue.

Mod situation:
While I understand people's desire, I see this as being consistent with long standing policy.
They were able to release at least some mods, so it's not like Sony is actively hostile to mods as such.
If that long standing policy was really a problem for you, you already moved onto other pastures, in whole or part.
-> Meh.

My take = Absence of UHD Blu-Ray lack and PSVR HDR pass-thru are only actual issues there.
And of course, there are work-arounds for PSVR/HDR that means nobody is screwed by it, it's just a design over-sight.
I don't know if the UHD-BD is about them being super stingy, or pushing some anti-disc agenda on people, Apple-style.
I might guess that by the time MS releases Scorpio, AND UHD TVs are more common, UHD-BD might be added to next SKU.
Still doesn't justify screwing early adopters over chump change.
(any cost could be factored into price if necessary, it's not like Sony offers "neat" $X99 prices around the world in all currencies)

How their success with games counters that? I say that just highlights that they should have taken high road here.
Their games, their overall reception for PS4 could have made this gen an unalloyed success for them re: mindshare.
These little things take away from that by however much. Certainly people will be looking at Scorpio because of UHD.
Whether on OG PS4 or Pro, people will certainly enjoy the great games on the platform, fair enough.
If people want to reduce this to "Sony are still winning, HA!", fine, but that doesn't make the issues disappear.

*Although to be fair, tip to OP:
Comprehension is easier when you break up topics with paragraphs/line breaks.
The sentence containing your list of missteps actually runs 4 lines on my screen.