That's really something.

Well that may be the case, but in the UK arent they down YOY? Guess we'll find out soon how they are doing in USA.

That's the most ridiculous statement I have ever read. If it had only just started than it would be launch sales for the first 3 months. Who won that one? Oh yea, the PS4. I think people are completely ignoring the effect the Pro had on PS4 sales and all the great deals MS had, then rushing to conclusions. Let's see what Nov and Dec NPDs hold, then what things settle to in Jan and Feb before we start talking about tipping points globally in the US.

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Fair points.  Granted yes it makes sense to some degree seeing as how Bunchanumbers said his brothers will be upgrading.  

But I LOVE GIGGS can you actually be sure and assume that people are still waiting to upgrade just because they bought the previous console?

Because if that's the case then couldn't you say the same for the PS4 since the PS3 sold roughly 90million as well?  Shouldn't the PS3 have sold more than 90million since the PS2 sold +150million?  Shouldn't the Wii U have sold a ton ton more because the Wii sold 100million?  Last gens number should never reflects on current gens, that's just how it is.

But if that's how MS sees it then that sounds more like a poor assumtion rather than some solid data.

I don't think that the tipping point is necessarily towards actual sales but perception. I think they finally rid themselves of the Mattrick era Xbox and are starting back at zero. It sounds strange to say but the DRM always online vision of the Mattrick era still stuck with the Xbox One years after launch. People kept saying that what's to stop MS from going back?

I think people are looking at MS differently and are willing to give them a fair shake because of the S. Not necessarily because the good time sales numbers of the 360 are happening.

Good job Microsoft! I knew they could do it. This year has been crazy successful for the Xbox brand, feels like the 360 era again almost. And they still have Scorpio next year! I can't believe how much they've turned it around, and how many risks they've taken. It's never been more exciting to be an Xbox fan.

I have faith that one day these companies and general consumers are going to wake up and stop getting robbed. I work for a very big US company, and they just spent $1000's on PC's that have half the RAM, Half the CPU, and about 1/4 the GPU power of the XBO. These brand new PC's have too little RAM and too little GPU to propperly run the graphics intense software that is vital to our daily operation. They spent over $800 on each unit, and are still running extreamly inefficient. They could have made a deal with Microsoft to run their programs on Xbox One, and bought a fleet of identical devices for everyone in the company, and still spent less in the end.

In addition they would not be having the problems they are having right now with different business units having different PC's which is causing even more problems getting everyone reliable and consistent access to the programs. Instead of wasting time trying to fix the programs to run on multiple and underpowered expensive PC's, they could be streamlining the programs to be more efficient, and driving up productivity and innovation within the company.

You seem salty lol

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Of course I can't say that all of them will upgrade, especially since I am the guy who says that video game industry inflated last generation and the total sales of home consoles will drop from 270-300 million to less than 200 million. 

I was just saying that there are tens of millions of X360 owners who haven't upgraded yet and you shouldn't question that. Whether they will upgrade and what console will they choose is another question. And I think that is the "tepping point" they mean, Xbox One is a way better option than it was two years ago, in customers mind.

They did recently. End of September was at 22 mil WW. 14 mil NA. So maybe 1.35 - 1.50 million more since then.