Quantcast
FFXV ships 5 million worldwide

Forums - Gaming Discussion - FFXV ships 5 million worldwide

Do we already have the japan numbers of FFXV?



Around the Network
Lawlight said:

Nice. If they made 2 games, it would have sold 10M.

User moderated -RavenXtra

I know lawlight isn't being serious but if big franchises actually did this would it boost sales much like it does for Pokemon?  you'd also have to note that pokemon sells for $40 not $60 so in total they're paying $80 if they buy both rather then $120.



Kerotan said:
Lawlight said:

Nice. If they made 2 games, it would have sold 10M.

User moderated -RavenXtra

I know lawlight isn't being serious but if big franchises actually did this would it boost sales much like it does for Pokemon?  you'd also have to note that pokemon sells for $40 not $60 so in total they're paying $80 if they buy both rather then $120.

You also have to note that the games hardly drop in price (other than deals) while your COD/BF/fifa/etv drop after 2-3 months (msrp). So you should account that too if you want to be technical.

 

As for pokemon, its like people think that every1/majority buy both games. Yes you can say many people do it but its nowhere near as much as people make it out to be and only a few games can pull this off. Pokemon being one of them because of how the games are structured.

 

That said its funny people bring this up then ignore stuff like ps4 pro/n3ds/etc double dipping and the many ports/remasters of last gen to this gen (like gtav selling 60mil).



tbone51 said:
Kerotan said:

Baffling?  I thought you followed the japanese sales.  Obviously not.  here I'll let you know. so the market is in decline and games don't tend to sell as much as they used to.  

Yeap good examples. *Cough Persona cough Fire Emblem Cough Animal Crossing Cough Minecraft *Cough Metal Gear Solid... Let me clear my throat *Pokemon cough cough cough Monster Hunter cough smt cough musuo (i dunno how to spell this) genre spin offs such as DQ warriors (and LoZ to an extent).

 

No new ips either like splatoon that just sold over 1.6mil on a horribly embarrassing userbase.

 

Again FFXV will do very well WW. Numbers will be no lower than 5mil so its doing good but making excuses for its sales in japan need to stop. Game can still get to 1mil there, but people need to stop acting like decline is ok over there because of "markeg changed". Many ips in the west have fallen too, much more than in japan i say and we dont use that for an excuse

Lmao I didn't bother reading psst the first few lines but did you really just say I'm using excuses and then you went onto make a lot yourself?  you listened the exceptions rather then the rule.  look at hardware sales for consoles and handhelds compared to last gen.  total yearly software sales don't lie either.  

 

2016 Playstation consoles are dominating total software sales but overall they're way down on the halcyon days. and after FF13 on top of more difficult market Japan was never going to warm much to its sequel by the series standards.  

 

So they were dead right to go after the western market and grow it there.  BTW the above are called facts not excuses. 



Boutros said:
tbone you predicted 10m first week sell-through for Pokémon why are you dissing other people's predictions lol

Wtf did he actually?  this is pokemon not gta V lol 



Around the Network
tbone51 said:
Kerotan said:

I know lawlight isn't being serious but if big franchises actually did this would it boost sales much like it does for Pokemon?  you'd also have to note that pokemon sells for $40 not $60 so in total they're paying $80 if they buy both rather then $120.

You also have to note that the games hardly drop in price (other than deals) while your COD/BF/fifa/etv drop after 2-3 months (msrp). So you should account that too if you want to be technical.

 

As for pokemon, its like people think that every1/majority buy both games. Yes you can say many people do it but its nowhere near as much as people make it out to be and only a few games can pull this off. Pokemon being one of them because of how the games are structured.

 

That said its funny people bring this up then ignore stuff like ps4 pro/n3ds/etc double dipping and the many ports/remasters of last gen to this gen (like gtav selling 60mil).

Lmao list all the people there who bring that up and ignore the fact that gta V or the Pro get double dipped.  I think 99% of posters on here understand that concept.  



tbone51 said:
Kerotan said:

I know lawlight isn't being serious but if big franchises actually did this would it boost sales much like it does for Pokemon?  you'd also have to note that pokemon sells for $40 not $60 so in total they're paying $80 if they buy both rather then $120.

You also have to note that the games hardly drop in price (other than deals) while your COD/BF/fifa/etv drop after 2-3 months (msrp). So you should account that too if you want to be technical.

 

As for pokemon, its like people think that every1/majority buy both games. Yes you can say many people do it but its nowhere near as much as people make it out to be and only a few games can pull this off. Pokemon being one of them because of how the games are structured.

 

That said its funny people bring this up then ignore stuff like ps4 pro/n3ds/etc double dipping and the many ports/remasters of last gen to this gen (like gtav selling 60mil).

So,  is a game that launched this week  selling because of remasters and ports? GtA sold  over 45-50 millions without the remasters. It was so recent that doesn't count



Swordmasterman said:
tbone51 said:

You also have to note that the games hardly drop in price (other than deals) while your COD/BF/fifa/etv drop after 2-3 months (msrp). So you should account that too if you want to be technical.

 

As for pokemon, its like people think that every1/majority buy both games. Yes you can say many people do it but its nowhere near as much as people make it out to be and only a few games can pull this off. Pokemon being one of them because of how the games are structured.

 

That said its funny people bring this up then ignore stuff like ps4 pro/n3ds/etc double dipping and the many ports/remasters of last gen to this gen (like gtav selling 60mil).

So,  is a game that launched this week  selling because of remasters and ports? GtA sold  over 45-50 millions without the remasters. It was so recent that doesn't count

I was adding on to the fact. Im not saying sales should be cut in half/etc. Im saying that ports are more double dipped than something like pokemon. Ex i bet more people double dipped for OoT 3d than for either of the pokemon games for ex. (I said gtav cuz its one of the best selling ports)



What's with all the Pokemon comparsion?

Anyways, this is a great achievement! Even if it only has a 50% sell-through then that would mean it sold 2.5m FW and if you keep in mind that the latest cod sold 3.8m FW then JRPGs don't seem that dead anymore on home consoles.



tbone51 said:
DonFerrari said:

Tha part of FF XV being less similar to other japanese derived games could very well be the reason and Square seeing the sales diminish decide to push even more away from japanesc on it.

Lets say that is the reason, people only started to state this more and more closer to ffxv release because we knew of a decline coming. A year ago or more we didnt expect it to drop this much (like when gaf and here on vgc people were comparing splatoon to ffxv in sales) despite us knowing what kind a game that ffxv would be.

Anyway like i said that could very well be the reason but thats still a huge hit. I can say that ffxiii did more damage as a whole that this but to each their own. Only thing i disagree with is the market changed. Just because many ips went downhill (in terms of sales) doesnt mean its ok to say thats reason enough.

Oh well my bad for bringing this up :/

The bad on you is just that you brought as if FF is the one decaying and denying it's the Japanese market. The exceptions you brought certainly aren't the rule.

The market was already on the down, the game was made even less like what the japan cater, so it got even lower. It is expected to theses guys, have they said it's good? Because I think you are trying to make a case where there isn't.

tbone51 said:
Swordmasterman said:

So,  is a game that launched this week  selling because of remasters and ports? GtA sold  over 45-50 millions without the remasters. It was so recent that doesn't count

I was adding on to the fact. Im not saying sales should be cut in half/etc. Im saying that ports are more double dipped than something like pokemon. Ex i bet more people double dipped for OoT 3d than for either of the pokemon games for ex. (I said gtav cuz its one of the best selling ports)

It's possible that there is more double dips on TLOUR than on Pokemon? Sure. But also if there were only one version of pokemon it would be more probable that 2 friends would buy only one cartridge and share the game instead of each buying one to exchange pokemon, besides from the beggining that specific part being used as the justification for the success of Pokemon.

And mostly the remasters aren't really discussed, the strongest discussion is on the release of the game.

About the drop in price. Yes, Cod, Fifa, etc drop faster than Nintendo games, but even if after 3 months it gets discounted a lot (or most in some cases) sales are still made before the price drops.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994