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Is Trump keeping one of his campaign promises?

First baby steps. Awwwww! 3 33.33%
 
Meh. Just a publicity stunt. 4 44.44%
 
Racism! Stopping Mexico from getting jobs! 2 22.22%
 
Total:9

Seems like Trump is at least trying to keep one of his campaign promises as he just struck a deal with air conditioning manufacturer Carrier to keep the Indianapolis plant open, saving lots of jobs. According to Fortune:

Air conditioning company Carrier said Tuesday that it had reached a deal with President-elect Donald Trump to keep nearly 1,000 jobs in Indiana.

“We are announcing today that Carrier will continue to manufacture gas furnaces in Indianapolis, in addition to retaining engineering and headquarters staff, preserving more than 1,000 jobs,” Carrier said. “Carrier will also designate its Indianapolis manufacturing facility as a Center of Excellence for gas furnace production, with a commitment to making significant investments to continue to maintain a world-class furnace factory.”

http://fortune.com/2016/11/29/donald-trump-carrier-indiana-jobs/

Of course the negative feedback was close behind as expected with any Trump decision. The deal has been called everything from "not anything new" to a downright scam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wVSMXgM0MY

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAWxVJjjPK0

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4boAQ-lXRs

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFg9udmEQIg

 

Regardless, this particular campaign promise (keeping the jobs in the USA) might have been the one that gave him the edge in many States. Hopefully he can keep it up.



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Sanders also campaigned on it, and I'll give Trump a little credit here, but I do think this was a bit of a PR stunt.

Carrier has $3 billion in US government defence contracts, they were always going to play ball so it was a cherry picked set up to showcase to the media. And some of the jobs are still be axed or transferred to Mexico anyway. 


I also think this could set a bit of a bad precedent because lots of companies will look at this and say "hey we're thinking of moving to Mexico too .... better give us a tax break and a bunch of incentives." There's pros/cons to a government trying to micromanage an economy.



There are more factories in the US today than there were like 25-30 years ago.

But they only employ 1/3 the workforce. Why? Because we have things called computers, internet, and automated machines that have made manufacturing much more efficient. In fact I believe the US actually manufacturers more product today than at any point in its history ... the issue is most of that doesn't need a ton of people to do that. Efficiency in manufacturing is light years beyond what it was in say 1980 ... just like your iPhone is miles better than the typical phone from 1980 (the idea of portable phone alone would blow people's minds, they'd probably faint at the touch screen/music/games part). 

The truth is politicians on both sides lie about this ... but manufacturing is never really coming back on a mass scale (and they know this). If anything it's going to become even more automated even for countries like China.

The irony is I believe a services based economy like the US is actually becoming benefits more from free trade.



So do we really expect him to step in every time a company is thinking about moving jobs out of the country? Its a publicity stunt. I'd rather have him concentrate on more important things like global warming, the environment and protecting our natural resources. Talking economy is nice and all but it doesn't matter if the ice caps are melted and half the country is under water.



Soundwave said:

Sanders also campaigned on it, and I'll give Trump a little credit here, but I do think this was a bit of a PR stunt.

Carrier has $3 billion in US government defence contracts, they were always going to play ball so it was a cherry picked set up to showcase to the media. And some of the jobs are still be axed or transferred to Mexico anyway. 


I also think this could set a bit of a bad precedent because lots of companies will look at this and say "hey we're thinking of moving to Mexico too .... better give us a tax break and a bunch of incentives." There's pros/cons to a government trying to micromanage an economy.

 

bunchanumbers said:
So do we really expect him to step in every time a company is thinking about moving jobs out of the country? Its a publicity stunt. I'd rather have him concentrate on more important things like global warming, the environment and protecting our natural resources. Talking economy is nice and all but it doesn't matter if the ice caps are melted and half the country is under water.

There. Changed the second option in the poll, just for you guys.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)