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What result is best?

Trump maintains lead and is voted in. 99 54.40%
 
Clinton gains lead and is voted in. 37 20.33%
 
Both candidates are below... 46 25.27%
 
Total:182
Wiibaron on 28 November 2016

Trump got 306 electoral votes. The 3 recount states have 10,16 and 20. He is ahead by about 100.000 votes total between the 3 states. Only all 3 recounts going against him would change anything. If a couple of those electors from other Trump states go against what is usual and expected, they should expect to go into witness protection along with everyone they know. And It would not be pretty for the US.



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mountaindewslave on 28 November 2016
Wiibaron said:
Trump got 306 electoral votes. The 3 recount states have 10,16 and 20. He is ahead by about 100.000 votes total between the 3 states. Only all 3 recounts going against him would change anything. If a couple of those electors from other Trump states go against what is usual and expected, they should expect to go into witness protection along with everyone they know. And It would not be pretty for the US.

the reality is like 99% of the vote for those states was already submitted, there's no logical reason that a 'recount' was suddenly create a change in votes for either candidate (beyond a couple thousand in one direction or another? maybe). The whole recount idea is strange at this point



barneystinson69 on 28 November 2016

Trump got 306 electoral votes, so he should receive that many. Hillary got 232, and she should also receive that many. Nothing else should change, and thats that.



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NightDragon83 on 29 November 2016

The electoral college was designed for this very purpose... to ensure that all states have a say in the election and that the largest population centers in the country (in today's case, NY and CA) don't control the outcome of every general election.

I would be open to changing the electoral college from the winner-take-all system that is currently in place to a proportional-result based on percentage of overall vote in each state similar to how many state primaries are run, which would give 3rd party candidates a fighting chance in a general election, but that's as far as I'd go. No way should the electoral college be abolished.



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m_csquare on 29 November 2016

The current result is the best. Now we can meme united states for the next 4 years



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tokilamockingbrd on 29 November 2016

good luck finding 70k votes to flip PA. Wiscy is close enough they could do something fishy to swing it. Michigan is 100% paper ballots so I have no idea why they would look into it since their reason was "Russian Hacks"



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greenmedic88 on 29 November 2016
Arminillo said:
greenmedic88 said:

What this is accomplishing however, is the increasing realization that the US citizen's vote does not matter in the presidential election. At best, it can foster belief that the system is not legitimate, or at least does not legitimately represent the majority consensus. Unless of course you happen to be the beneficiary of the system in which the popular vote was lost by your party where you can lose the vote, but still win the election.

How does it not matter? If we moved to popular vote, the minority vote would think their vote "doesnt matter". The electoral college was made to ensure the minority had a vote, just like our bicameral legislature was. America is built on compromise, not majority. Hell, even the Revolutionaries were the minority of Americans at the time.

If you are in a swing state it matters. If you are in say California, voting Republican is a wasted vote. Each election generally boils down to 6 or 7 swing states where every vote matters, which is why a sizeable percentage of campaigning efforts and dollars are spent there. 



Ariakon on 29 November 2016

The abolition of the electoral college. 



greenmedic88 on 29 November 2016
NightDragon83 said:
The electoral college was designed for this very purpose... to ensure that all states have a say in the election and that the largest population centers in the country (in today's case, NY and CA) don't control the outcome of every general election.

I would be open to changing the electoral college from the winner-take-all system that is currently in place to a proportional-result based on percentage of overall vote in each state similar to how many state primaries are run, which would give 3rd party candidates a fighting chance in a general election, but that's as far as I'd go. No way should the electoral college be abolished.

A proportionally distributed electoral vote count is the only way out of a two party system, but it's not too difficult to understand why the beneficiaries of such a system would never allow that to happen. 



Barkley on 29 November 2016
Ariakon said:

The abolition of the electoral college. 

Yup, even Trump hates the electoral college, or at least he did before they made him president.