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RIP A true leader and visionary. Something that the western world is missing for at least half a century. You will always be remembered!



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coolbeans said:
bunchanumbers said:

Lets wait a couple years. That could be happening too.

Droves of people fleeing some semblance of a capitalist/democratic system?  I'll get your crow ready.

You mean like how the Canada immigration site went down on the night of the election?



Well, he is with Hugo Chavez now.



bunchanumbers said:
coolbeans said:

Droves of people fleeing some semblance of a capitalist/democratic system?  I'll get your crow ready.

You mean like how the Canada immigration site went down on the night of the election?

Reality is white liberals live a easy life in America, Trump or not 



Soundwave said:

For the alarmists of today who think their generation is special, the 1960s was far more dangerous than today and the world came within probably minutes of nuclear war.

During all of the 1960s, the closest the so called "Doomsday Clock" came to midnight was 7 minutes.

It has been closer to midnight/doomsday than that ever since 2007.

Currently, we are at 3 minutes to midnight; the only time the doomsday clock has even been closer to midnight/doomsday than this was in the 1950s.

Soundwave said:

It's mainly due to President Kennedy IMO that a nuclear World War III was avoided.

If JFK had made a different set of decisions during those fateful days in 1962, none of us would be here typing on our computers, because the world would've be such a vastly different place that none of us probably would've been born.

And right now, we have pretty much the same situation, but reversed and much worse:

The US is bringing more and more nuclear bombs, rockets, troops etc. close to the russian borders, thereby consciously threatening russia and provocing WW3.

Compared to how the US is threatening russia right now, what the russians/cuba were doing in the 1960s was hardly worth mentioning.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
He got super rich through corruption and he enforced poverty onto his people. He was a despised leader just like every other third world despotic dictator.

Yeah, and Batista who was backed by the US government supported the mob in its country. Those were good times, right?? 

 

"Organized crime infiltrated Havana with gambling operations, drugs and prostitution rings. They also controlled racetracks and nightclubs that mostly catered to American and Cuban elites. Hollywood has produced films about the mafia avoiding the U.S. government from prosecution, but that was further from the truth. Throughout history, the mafia and the U.S. government have collaborated on a number of occasions."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/cuba-pre-1959-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-u-s-backed-dictator-with-links-to-the-mob/5464738

Fidel Castro freed the country from the US and Batista.



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Ruler said:

RIP

 

dont listen to the Media he was a great leader, here is proof

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?locations=ZJ-CU

So making your country money makes you a good leader? Lol um ok. 

 

I honestly can't tell if this guy is good or bad. Actual cubans say he was an aweful opressing dictator who ruled with an iron fist. Some US (on the left) are now praising him  while the right still is keeping on that propaganda saying he was terrible (but for different reasons IE going against what the US right wants).

 

I tend to ignore everyone and listen to the actual people that lived there. Look guys, go research it. Cubans hated his rule. That's enough fact for me.



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I wonder how many people who support Cuba government here (or anywhere for that matter) have actually been to Cuba. People say "don't believe what the media says" yet they use the same media to support their arguments.

 

I was in Cuba 5 years ago, and let me tell you the situation there is bad for the most part. I din't go to places the government told me to go, I went to the small towns and places and talk to the real citizens and they told me their side of the story (which is the real, most important side really).

 

Yes, health is free; a Cuban citizen can go to the doctor and get check, but you know what happens next? You can't find medicine unless you pay an absurd amount of money (which most don't have); I actually saw this, I fell down while walking on the street and I went to a pharmacy to get a band-aid, when I got to the "pharmacy" (can't barely be called that), almost all the stands were empty, I asked the guy in charge for a band-aid, and in the most funny and really sad moment, he told: "I haven't seen a band-aid in almost 10 years!", this is no joke; he gave me a piece of cotton with a tape.

Yes, you can get free education; but at what cost? You can't say anything bad about the government, and I mean ANYTHING; if someone knows you were talking bad about the government even in the slightest, say goodbye to your education forever; people told me stories that because one guy dislikes the other, he told an official he or she talked bad about the president and got suspended from their studies; and (according to the one who told me the story), the guy in question never said anything bad, there's very little investigation done.

People are not dying of hunger, but is not like they have a lot of benefits either; I talked to people who probably eat meat 2 or 3 times a year, and children in the streets were begging for a piece of candy, this latter melted my heart.

People can talk all they want, but I saw the real thing that most people in Cuba experience; and is a very sad situation. There's a reason people risks their life on a boat and cross the ocean instead of staying there.



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coolbeans said:
bunchanumbers said:

You mean like how the Canada immigration site went down on the night of the election?

I mean like how the most vocal of celebrities have backed out, and most are likely to follow.

To make a quick addendum to my last comment: Since we were talking about Cuba, I was visualizing "fleeing some semblance of a capitalist/democratic system TO a communist regime."  The silly notion of the tables turning.  

Ridiculous addendum.

How many communist regimes are out there to flee to? Besides I already proved your premise to be accurate. People are fleeing a capitalist/democratic system.



LadyJasmine said:
bunchanumbers said:

You mean like how the Canada immigration site went down on the night of the election?

Reality is white liberals live a easy life in America, Trump or not 

Indeed they do.