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Betsy DeVos, Trump’s Education Pick, Has Steered Money From Public Schools

New York Times: "It is hard to find anyone more passionate about the idea of steering public dollars away from traditional public schools than Betsy DeVos, Donald J. Trump’s pick as the cabinet secretary overseeing the nation’s education system."

Meet Betsy DeVos,

  • Billionaire
  • No Education degree
  • No teaching experience
  • No experience working in a school environment
  • Never attended public school or state university
  • Never put her own children in public school
  • Does not believe in or support public education
  • Believes that public school teachers are overpaid
  • Supports for-profit education
  • Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations
  • Doggedly advocates funneling money out of public education and into for-profit Christian-based education
  • Donated $9.5 million to Trump's campaign

Here is the question you should be asking yourself, should your tax dallors go to a private school that denies science?



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At least he is draining the corruption swamp. There is almost no corruption left outside of his cabinet.



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

One can only wonder in times like this, especially given how unqualified she is, just how many times she had to let him grab her by the pussy to get this position.



Even just reading is already disgusting. And I'm on another country. Can't imagine what US habitants feels about it.



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I don't agree with Republicans on supporting private education over public education since the latter outperforms the former when controlling socioeconomic factors like income or other background but it's cancer to have education be politicized by either side since the both are guilty of limiting academic freedom (Yes, including the progressives too.) ... 

Then again my idea of an ideal education system is vastly different to that of either mainstream political parties. I would support defunding the humanities to make more room for the STEM subjects (no more awarding vast amounts of social sciences to the liberals). Liberals supporting extreme educational freedom is naive since it runs counterintuitive to their goals maximizing tax revenue and conservatives don't get that religion is not at all practical in modern society ... 

Yeah, that's right I'll take an extremely pragmatic view of education ... 



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Wow, just wow. Education sucks anyways, but wow.



great, now we'll see more republicans argue for Christian schools to be allowed, and to teach creationism in public schools because durrrrr...TOLERANCE! But when it comes to Islam or whatever, screw that! Shouldn't be teaching religious ideas in public schools, except for creationism because logic.

We'll also see more idiots and an education system that'll be George Bush-leveled bad. I mean, what the hell is Trump doing? Why is he picking complete idiots? Some random teacher would be better than this woman.

DAMMIT. Just...dammit. For a bit I thought we'd stop seeing the christianity VS Public schools debate for good. Guess it'll come back.

Good thing I just finished high school



 

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Okay lets do this
0. Billionare, how does this impact anything, there is nothing wrong with being a billionare
1. The current educations secretary dosnet have a a degree in education either, he has one in govermnet
2. She does not have teachign experience, but she has been dealing with issues surrouding education, she is an educaion activiste
3. same answer as n2
4. The current secetrayr attended harvard, and most secreaties of education dont attend state universitys. I dont know how going to a private school discasifies her
5.  OKay so?, same goes for current secreatary, and this shouldnt be a probelm
6. No proof  of her stating this,  she jsut said she wants more schoool choice and more charter shcools, opposes federal intrusiton in public schools
7. Mot experts agree that teachers are overpiad, and there pay ahs greatly increased in the last few years
8  YEs she has vouched for vouchers to attend private unviersities, which reserach show are hgiehr quality than state universities, there is nothing wrong with for progfit education
8. She is a christian and can put her money where she wants, there is nothing wrong with this, no proof chirsitan shcools are inferior to public schools
9. 80 percent of schools in michigan are for profit, so its donset hurt if they get mroe money, as mroe schols will be benefited, the chrisitan arugemnet is stupid and i wont waste time rebuting it
10. She is a gop donor after all, this wont affetc her performance as secretayr of education
11. The primary group oppisong ehr americna federation of teahcers, has been provne to hurt education
12-∞ vgchartz is a terrible place for politicla discussion
 and have you nothing better to do than attack the presindet elect


For those critical of school choice in the U.S. Notice how prevelant other countries subsidize private schools, and these include many countries that outperform the U.S. 

https://www.edchoice.org/school_choice_faqs/how-does-school-choice-work-in-other-countries/

“The proportion of students in government-funded private schools is sizable in countries such as Australia (25 percent), Belgium (58 percent), Denmark (11 percent), France (16.8 percent), South Korea (21 percent), the Netherlands (76 percent), Spain (24 percent), and the United Kingdom (30 percent).”

In Finland, the government provides funding for basic education at all levels, and instruction is free of charge.3 In Sweden, schooling is “free,” and parents are able to choose their children’s schools; funding even follows the student when they change schools.4 In Portugal, the Ministry of Education finances the public sector in its entirety, and the state subsidizes each student in private schools.5 In Germany, the Netherlands, England, Northern Ireland, and Sweden, “public funding is provided so that families can choose to send their children to schools with a religious character.”6

 

In several European countries, such as Belgium, the Netherlands, and Ireland, school choice is a constitutional right. Article 24 of the Belgian constitution, for example, provides “all pupils of school age have the right to moral or religious education at the Community’s expense.” Belgium enacted universal school choice in 1958 in what it termed the “School Pact”; school choice was seen as a way of avoiding strife between Catholic and Protestant schools.



I don't really have a problem with any of that stuff listed in the OP. I don't think teachers are overpaid at least not public schooling teachers. They're underpaid if anything.