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3sexty said:
thismeintiel said:

You sound just like the Xbox fans during holiday 2013, when the PS4 only lost because of stock shortages. Just like with the Pro, now, they were ignoring the reason why, talking about momentum helping XBO claim the US. Where are we, now? The PS4 has an over 1.2M lead in the US and when XBO has it largest exclusive launch, aside from Halo, and with people waiting for the Pro, it leads to a less than 100K lead for one month. Less than a 280K gap for the last 4 months.  The gap for these past four months is most likely going to be wiped out in Nov. Dec MAY see a small XBO lead, but that's far from guaranteed. January we should go back to normal. PS4 winning most months, with a few XBO wins here or there.

Come on man its not about fanfare or religion - you make it sound like is is all about that using words like you are going to be shocked etc etc. Its really not personal at all.  The current trend is more than wishful thinking. it is real and sustained. the budget xbox one slim really has hit the right point between percerption of a true 4k offering and affordability.  That is what has made the difference last couple of months.  Like I said the pro is a premium offering for which most will not be queing up post launch and heading into christmass. The perception in the U.S and UK is real in that the xone slim has more to offer than the ps4 slim (nothing changed other than little smaller again) vs 4k out of the box and 4k blu ray.  This really is the begining of a turnaround in ur home turf my friend - all the signs point to it. Rememebr there were quite alot of fans suggesting that no way the xbox one s would outsell the ps4 slim or more rediculously when the psvr comes. those 2 xbox killers are out and  and have had little effect against the one s. And the pro...again we talking about premium product with a high price point, - above that of the standard run of the mill consumer.... And look dont be too bothered about it. things change and compettition promotes exciting and innovative moves on both sides...

Pro with a high price point ? When it's just 50$ more than a XBOs ?



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This is what needs to be remembered:

 

MONTH             PS4                    XB1

January             227k                   130k

Febuary             404k                   248k

March                330k                   241k

April                   178k                   167k

May                   207k                   107k

June                   234k                   211k

July                     161k                   171k

August               160k                   274k

September        285k                   332k

October             235k                   329k

November                                    

December                                    

2016 TOTAL       2421k                2012k

 


Even thought the Xb1 has taken a few months, its still behinde in the USA sales wise for 2016. 

Then factor in the PS4pro moveing sales from Aug/Sep/Oct -> November.....



Lauster said:
3sexty said:

Come on man its not about fanfare or religion - you make it sound like is is all about that using words like you are going to be shocked etc etc. Its really not personal at all.  The current trend is more than wishful thinking. it is real and sustained. the budget xbox one slim really has hit the right point between percerption of a true 4k offering and affordability.  That is what has made the difference last couple of months.  Like I said the pro is a premium offering for which most will not be queing up post launch and heading into christmass. The perception in the U.S and UK is real in that the xone slim has more to offer than the ps4 slim (nothing changed other than little smaller again) vs 4k out of the box and 4k blu ray.  This really is the begining of a turnaround in ur home turf my friend - all the signs point to it. Rememebr there were quite alot of fans suggesting that no way the xbox one s would outsell the ps4 slim or more rediculously when the psvr comes. those 2 xbox killers are out and  and have had little effect against the one s. And the pro...again we talking about premium product with a high price point, - above that of the standard run of the mill consumer.... And look dont be too bothered about it. things change and compettition promotes exciting and innovative moves on both sides...

Pro with a high price point ? When it's just 50$ more than a XBOs ?

Just looked at amazon and note the one s 1 tb is $299 vs the ps4 pro at $399.



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3sexty said:
Lauster said:

Pro with a high price point ? When it's just 50$ more than a XBOs ?

Just looked at amazon and note the one s 1 tb is $299 vs the ps4 pro at $399.

He means the 1tb version of the XB1s compaired to the 1tb PS4pro.

Thats a 50$ differnce, for 3 times the power of the console.

For that little differnce I dont see why people would get a XB1s tbh, unless they want a xbox exclusive game.



JRPGfan said:
3sexty said:

Just looked at amazon and note the one s 1 tb is $299 vs the ps4 pro at $399.

He means the 1tb version of the XB1s compaired to the 1tb PS4pro.

Thats a 50$ differnce, for 3 times the power of the console.

For that little differnce I dont see why people would get a XB1s tbh, unless they want a xbox exclusive game.

but i imagine the one s 500gb is cheaper yet again for the budget minded folk. its all relative and people are picking it up even tho i would admit 500gb sucks balls tbh. fills up quite quickly.



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walsufnir said:
Mike_L said:

So what's the source?

I'm asking out of interest. Not of distrust.

Sorry, my post was in the other thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8161271

Sorry. You're right.

The difference is 211k.

 

MONTH             PS4                    XB1

January             227k                   130k

Febuary             404k                   248k

March                330k                   241k

April                   178k                   167k

May                   207k                   107k

June                   234k                   211k

July                     161k                   171k

August               160k                   274k

September        285k                   332k

October             235k                   329k

November                                    

December                                    

2016 TOTAL       2421k                2210k



Damn PS4 lost more than 250K lead in last 3months in the US. I should think think next 2months especially since PS4P with competitive pricing and PS4S with COD should do well. TLG and uncharted DLC might also help.



 

exclusive_console said:
Damn PS4 lost more than 250K lead in last 3months in the US. I should think think next 2months especially since PS4P with competitive pricing and PS4S with COD should do well. TLG and uncharted DLC might also help.

IF they have a PS4 Slim with CoD. And even then the CoD fanbase is just a fraction of what it used to be.



XB1

132,000
248,200
241,500
167,600
107,100
211,900
171,100
274,800
332,800
329,000

2,216,000

PS4

230,000
404,900
330,100
174,800
207,300
234,500
161,200
160,000
285,300
235,100

2,423,200



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

Wow...a tight race for 2016 for PS4 and Xbox One. Very good. Wish Nintendo was in the running as far as sales go.



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