Who are you voting for? | |||
| Hillary Clinton | 167 | 27.93% | |
| Donald Trump | 185 | 30.94% | |
| Gary Johnson | 23 | 3.85% | |
| Jill Stein | 21 | 3.51% | |
| Can't vote not old enough | 11 | 1.84% | |
| Can't vote out of country | 191 | 31.94% | |
| Total: | 598 | ||
It is over, ding dong he won, nothing changed, because the obvious flaws of the system, which is the obivious that no such thing as true democracy ever exists.
| PwerlvlAmy said: Trump gonna end up with at least 304 electoral when the final states come in. Thats crazy |
Yeah. Man could afford to lose Florida, so that's telling. I guess you can't stump the Trump, after all.
He will lose the popular vote by 0,5%
In Brazil, we have something called second round, that's when the other candidates are excluded, and only the first two compete
If popular vote counted in the states, I'm pretty sure, it would need to have this system
And... I'm pretty sure johnson's votes would go to trump
Volterra_90 said:
Definitely not. I'm not sure in what Europe are you living, but that's not my Europe definitely xD. |
The definition of 'the far left' is pretty relative, just like the definition of 'the far right'. It's relative to what's considered 'normal' or 'center' where you live, I think. The US is further right than most European countries, so from the US, Europe seems to be to the left, while from Europe, the US seem to be to the right. As for why a European person might consider Europe to be to the left, someone's probably looked outside the box and caught a good glimpse of a country that's to the right.
Is this the "official thread" that all political discussion is being force-lumped into? With something this big going on, I find it odd that we can only have one thread to discuss the varying effects that lead up to yesterday and how it will change the world.
Zkuq said:
We should probably wait for results of the popular vote first before talking about 'total pissing on democracy'. Last I checked, Clinton still has the lead in the popular vote, so if we're to make rush judgements, it seems like Trump winning is pissing on democracy instead. And that's why we should wait for the final results before pulling off some drama about 'total pissing on democracy'. |
Bitter much?
You know very well that the analysis of these newspapers and politicians didn't have anything to do with how the popular vote turned out.
All parliamentary democracies have systems where you can lose even if you got the majority popular vote, including Sweden and Finland.
Slimebeast said:
Bitter much? You know very well that the analysis of these newspapers and politicians didn't have anything to do with how the popular vote turned out. All parliamentary democracies have systems where you can lose even if you got the majority popular vote, including Sweden and Finland. |
Isn't this kinda stupid though? In a way, it means some vote have more weight to them than others. I am not comfortable with that.
I just want to say fuck the electoral college and I'm never voting again. If your state goes against you then your vote doesn't count. Don't tell me my vote counts when it doesn't.
Fuck the democrats and republicans. USA is void of any good leaders.
LurkerJ said:
Isn't this kinda stupid though? In a way, it means some vote have more weight to them than others. I am not comfortable with that. |
Of course it is stupid, and historically it has always favored the bigger, established parties against the up and coming ones.
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